Need advice on a graded T3

[quinnsryche]

As a seller/buyer on ebay I am not quite sure how you can ask for a refund on a graded card that you saw scans, both front & back, of. Most sellers state in their listings "no refunds on graded cards" which I agree 100% with. Maybe you can explain a bit further why you are unhappy with your purchase? I would never give a refund just because "I don't like it". Scans were provided and nothing was questionable about the listing. The seller provided exactly what was listed, nothing more/nothing less. If your gripe is with PSA, fight it out with them, but leave the seller out of it. Buyer's remorse is no reason for a refund IMO.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

As a seller/buyer on ebay I am not quite sure how you can ask for a refund on a graded card that you saw scans, both front & back, of. ..... The seller provided exactly what was listed, nothing more/nothing less. If your gripe is with PSA, fight it out with them, but leave the seller out of it. Buyer's remorse is no reason for a refund IMO.

Not to pile on, but I agree with this statement. This isn't the sellers fault.

Edit to add, I looked at the auction and it was a true auction with a $9.95 start. No way under those circumstances is it reasonable to ask for a refund in my opinion.

Also, to agree with others, I think it's a nice card that presents well. I wouldn't feel bad about owning it.

[smtjoy]

I never said it was the sellers fault. That said the seller has no stated return policy and I think on a card that was graded a 4 and had the issues possibly outside that grading standard the seller should have brought that up. I therefore dont see an issue with asking for a refund.

I also think its funny the whole "no returns on graded cards" because is that not in fact assuming that the card is consistently graded and you should get a card thats up to their published standard?

As a sellers on ebay I offer no questions asked returns on any item and just feel its good business and I know I am not alone on this.

[Rob D.]

Scott, if I had to make an educated guess, I'd say that many eBay sellers have a "no refunds on graded cards" policy because of the exact scenario that is developing here: A buyer receives a card he thinks is overgraded (as opposed to the card being altered, misidentified or fake) and wants to return it.

I've got to ask: The seller provided scans of the front and back. If you didn't like the card or had doubts about it, why buy it? It's not like T3s are one-of-a-kind cards of which you'll never see another.

There's not even a consensus in this thread as to what the grade of the card should be. It doesn't seem that either the seller or PSA should be held liable that you don't agree with the grade and don't like the card.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by smtjoy

I never said it was the sellers fault. That said the seller has no stated return policy and I think on a card that was graded a 4 and had the issues possibly outside that grading standard the seller should have brought that up. I therefore dont see an issue with asking for a refund.

I also think its funny the whole "no returns on graded cards" because is that not in fact assuming that the card is consistently graded and you should get a card thats up to their published standard?

As a sellers on ebay I offer no questions asked returns on any item and just feel its good business and I know I am not alone on this.

I don't think it's the sellers job to determine if PSA grades cards correctly. That very quickly becomes a one way street. Imagine a listing that says, PSA 4 but they clearly got it wrong, it's a PSA 6, so bid accordingly. We'd all laugh at an auction like that. Bottom line, PSA guarantees the grade, not the seller.

I understand about your return policy and that's a business decision (not a bad one either). Not everyone will make that same business decision however, and the auction clearly states no returns. I don't see how it's reasonable to expect a refund under the circumstances.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything, so don't take it that way. Just trying to add my opinion as to how I would handle it.

[quinnsryche]

I agree with PolarBear 100%. Well said.
Edit to add: Rob D. also.

[barrysloate]

Scott- wouldn't it be easier to just resell the card yourself instead of getting into a disagreement with the seller? As stated by a few, the seller did nothing wrong and it might be unfair to pressure him to take it back. If you resell it yourself you should come pretty close to getting all your money back, and it's not impossible that you might end up a couple of dollars ahead. I've been in your position before, and I find it is better to just sell it and move on.

[Anthony S.]

Originally Posted by smtjoy

I never said it was the sellers fault. That said the seller has no stated return policy and I think on a card that was graded a 4 and had the issues possibly outside that grading standard the seller should have brought that up. I therefore dont see an issue with asking for a refund.

The seller did have a stated return policy. If you click the "Shipping and Payments" button on the auction listing it states, under the heading Return Policy, "The seller will not accept returns for this item."

[smtjoy]

Sorry I did miss the no return option.

Thanks for all the info and replys, i'm still considering my options.

[Anthony S.]

Is the seller able to see the full Ebay ID --- not that d**6** crap that the bidders see --- of the underbidder? If so, you might want to ask him for it, and then contact the underbidder and see if he's still interested in the card.