T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set survey....MISSION COMPLETE

[tedzan]

The CYCLE 460 cards were printed and issued (late 1910) prior to the AB 460 cards (1911). The CYCLE 460 backs
are found on most of the 109 possible subjects. Whereas, to date, we have only confirmed 70 of the possible 103
AB 460 cards. I don't expect that we will find too many more AB 460 cards. The reason being, that the Red HINDU
cards (issued in 1911) appear to complement the AB 460 cards in the total run of the 350/460 and 460-only series
subjects.

Why American Litho. printed these 2 backs in this manner is a mystery to me. Do you guys have any ideas on this ?


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Are you saying that from your research you think a card like Herzog will only be possible with a Red Hindu or AB 460 back?

[cfc1909]

that is correct Tim -not both.

[tedzan]

To date, Herzog (Boston) has not been found with either AB 460 or Red HINDU.

Anyhow, Herzog is a card in the 460-only series, and may be found with both AB 460 and Red HINDU
backs This "mutually exclusive rule" does not apply to the 48 cards in the 460-only series.

FYI....The 460-only series has its particular "mutually exclusive rule", that is between LENOX and Red
HINDU brands.

The Herzog card you are interested is found with a LENOX back....therefore, Herzog will NOT be found
with a Red HINDU back.



Jim....ole buddy....sorry to disagree with you.


TED Z

[cfc1909]

I keep throwing in the 460 only cards-I did that the other day with the Crandall when we were talking about this rule. I have to watch that...

I have Herzog with Lenox and Cycle 460-no Red Hindu or AB 460.

[tedzan]

Since Herzog (Boston) has been confirmed with a LENOX back, Herzog will not exist with a Red HINDU back.

Hence, there is a chance that Herzog was printed with an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back.

I haven't seen one, yet....but, that doesn't mean it's a No-Print.

The hunt continues......with the exception of Kleinow (Boston), I expect that eventually we will find all 47
cards in the 460-only series with AB 460 backs.


TED Z

[Mikehealer]

Ted
Thanks for the post on the Lenox/Red Hindu information. Lots of help.