Grade of Authentic

[tonyo]

Thanks to both Jay and bbcemporium for the replies.

What does rebacked and skinned mean?

[FrankWakefield]

Do you have an Old Judge card? These cards are sometimes rebacked.

Realistically, they consist of a photograph affixed to a piece of cardboard, the 'card' is a sandwich of the two. When cards like this separate, from various causes, two pieces are left. Sometimes this separating is intentional, because of damage to the back. When that surface photograph or surface paper is attached to a 'new' back, then the card is deemed 'rebacked'.

And to be accurate, PSA and SGC will not knowingly grade a rebacked card. To say they never have and never will is a bit of a stretch.

[tonyo]

Got it, thanks.

No Old Judges. New to pre-war. So far, only 1933 goudey and T205's have been added to my collection.

This board has been helpful and friendly.

Tony

[barrysloate]

Tony- there are occasions when a card that was submitted is perfectly fine, but for some reason the grading company feels uncomfortable giving it a numerical grade. It may be a hairline smaller than normal, or have a funny looking cut. As such, the card may still receive an "Authentic" grade. In those cases the graders may choose to err on the side of caution.

[tonyo]

I've never submitted a card for grading. I assume that when a card is returned to the owner, an explanation accompanies that explains the grade assigned. true?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Tony- there are occasions when a card that was submitted is perfectly fine, but for some reason the grading company feels uncomfortable giving it a numerical grade. It may be a hairline smaller than normal, or have a funny looking cut. As such, the card may still receive an "Authentic" grade. In those cases the graders may choose to err on the side of caution.

Barry is correct, of course. There are times the third party graders just don't feel comfortable with some aspect OR they don't know enough about the set. IN those cases they might give an AUT grade and there isn't any issue with the card. I had this happen to an 1875 CDV of Candy Cummings. I gave it to SGC to grade at a National several years ago. It came back AUT as the graders didn't know enough about it. I was a bit unhappy since there wasn't anything wrong with the card. After some discussions and research the card got reviewed and came back as an SGC80.....it was a beautiful card and didn't have any problems. As I told them at the time...if there IS A PROBLEM, then I had no issue with an AUT grade. If there wasn't a problem then it should get a numerical grade. They agreed....regards

[insidethewrapper]

I didn't know the graders knew who submitted the cards to them. I thought they graded without knowledge of the owner.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I didn't know the graders knew who submitted the cards to them. I thought they graded without knowledge of the owner.

I would imagine sometimes it's difficult, when accepting the grading submission in person, to be completely anonymous. However, this was my arguing AFTER the fact, and not before it. I doubt the graders knew who I was on the front end of the submission, but it was at least 3 yrs ago so I wouldn't swear to anything. I don't remember them knowing who I was on the front end, is all I can say for sure .

I can add one more thing. The grading was done at a hotel across the street that year.