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Old 09-23-2009, 08:38 PM
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Okay,
What a nice fellow., He'll be happy with $600-800 for the Ruth rookie with autograph. His Jeter rookie however, is available for $200 bin.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:33 PM
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eBay is a jungle out there for the uninformed, especially when it comes to specialty sections like pre-war cards. I think we sometimes presume people bidding on prewar cards read Net54 or have more than a passing knowledge of the cards but the sad truth is a lot of bidders are generally clueless, even on high price cards.
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Not that I don't have sympathy for an unsuspecting buyer....but who in their right mind pays hundreds or thousands of dollars for collectibles without a little bit of knowledge?

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Old 09-24-2009, 05:27 AM
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Not that I don't have sympathy for an unsuspecting buyer....but who in their right mind pays hundreds or thousands of dollars for collectibles without a little bit of knowledge?

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Maybe it's a case of 'just enough knowledge to be dangerous'.
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Old 09-24-2009, 06:02 AM
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Not that I don't have sympathy for an unsuspecting buyer....but who in their right mind pays hundreds or thousands of dollars for collectibles without a little bit of knowledge?

Jeff

People with more money than brains, and there certainly are plenty of them.
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People with more money than brains, and there certainly are plenty of them.
If they have extra money that they want to throw away, I'd be more than happy to give them my mailing address where they can send the checks.
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I only send emails about fakes/reprints that I am 100% sure of. Of the emails I send to those sellers I would estimate about 50% are pissed off at me and just say I don't know what I am talking about and to mind my own business. The other 50% are grateful and ask how I know. Many times I feel it's not worth trying to save everyone.....Ebay has to have some responsibility and, even though they made some rules a while back, they don't have (or want to pay for?) the manpower to enforce them.
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Hey Dan, just to throw this into the pot, since this thread refers to ebay fruad and I've been tracking this particular cat just for the fun of it. Here is profitable eBay scamming at its best. I present you ebayer "ben.cat". I have posted about his PSA 1952 Mantle reprint cards in the past and to give him his props, he always states that his Mantle cards are reprints. It is just the PSA holders that always irk me (and I'm an SGC guy but I prefer them raw...).


Here is his modus operandi... He purchases '52 Mantle reprints whenever he is short on cash...

Here is one example I found (glance at the 6th feedback from the top)
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...edbackAsSeller

here is another example...http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=220468910358




This cat then then proceeds to sell the '52 Mantle reprints in PSA holders. Two examples...

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=120459451299

http://cgi.ebay.com/1952-TOPPS-MICKE...mZ120471503569

Lovely Day...
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I can't beleive the greediness of forgers. The only thing that eclipses the shoddiness of the reprint is that disgusting "autograph". I didn't realize that Stevie Wonder was a forger!
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I'm amazed.... I sit here, finding myself in agreement with all of the above posts.

I've bought from Howard before on eBay... and he seems to have a good business model. I add that sometimes I've emailed a seller about how what he's selling isn't what he claims, and it seems about half the time they'll pull the auction, usually saying thanks, with varying degrees of sincerity. And when they deny that the card they're selling is a fake or reprint, about half the time I'll send messages to the top 2 or 3 bidders in an effort to enlighten them before the auction ends.

I think sometimes the winner is a shill, and I'm wasting my time on it all.

Good eye, Dan!!
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I've been selling for about 10 years on eBay and have sold about 65,000 cards. It has also happend to me in which I tried to sell a card which turned out to be fake. I didn't know until someone contacted me. Whenever someone suspects that i might have a fake, I immediately pull it from ebay. I then go post the scan of the card on Net54 and let the experts here decide whether its a fake or not.

I think that if any of the experts see an obvious fake on eBay, they should contact the seller before the auction ends. I know that if someone contacted me to let me know I had a fake up there I would be grateful for their advice. I can't speak for all sellers.

We are just human and sometimes we make mistakes.
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