T206 Demmitt & O'Hara....are they 350-only Series cards ?

[tedzan]

Matt
I think egbeachley has clarified what I meant by......
"This argument of yours, Matt, is not a statistically valid one."

A weighting factor must be considered in interpreting the data from these T206 surveys.

The range of the 350-only PB cards in these surveys was from 1 to 8.
HOWEVER, ONLY 5 OF THE 638 SAMPLES WERE 8.

The range of the 350/460 PB cards in these surveys was from 4 to 23.
HOWEVER, ONLY 8 OF THE 451 SAMPLES WERE 4

I think you will agree that these extrem #s represent the 3 SIGMA points on a Bell curve; and, further reinforce
my contention that a very high probability exists that the Demmitt and O'Hara (St Louis vars.) were printed and
issued during the 350-only POLAR BEAR run.


TED Z

[Matt]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Matt
I think egbeachley has clarified what I meant by......
"This argument of yours, Matt, is not a statistically valid one."

As I've shown above I believe his logic to be incorrect.

Originally Posted by tedzan

A weighting factor must be considered in interpreting the data from these T206 surveys.

Agree - 100%

Originally Posted by tedzan

The range of the 350/460 PB cards in these surveys was from 4 to 23.
HOWEVER, ONLY 8 OF THE 451 SAMPLES WERE 4

How many 350/460 backs were 5 populations since that's the population number we're dealing with? And while we are there, how many of the 350 only cards are 5 populations?

Originally Posted by tedzan

I think you will agree that these extrem #s represent the 3 SIGMA points on a Bell curve; and, further reinforce
my contention that a very high probability exists that the Demmitt and O'Hara (St Louis vars.) were printed and issued during the 350-only POLAR BEAR run.

I don't have the raw data so I can't say exactly, but my guess based on the numbers you have shared here is that it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 70%-80% likely.

[E93]

The area of a circle is πr2
JimB

P.S. I vote for 350 series only.

[tedzan]

Hey guy, it was great meeting you at the National.

We don't always agree on things; but, we do on this subject



TED Z

[tedzan]

In response to several requests, I'm listing here all the players in the T206 set whose trades or reassignments are
reflected in their repeated cards with respect to each series.

....................150 series..............350 series................350/460 series................460 series

Ball...................NYA........................ .................................................. ...........Clev
G. Brown...........Cubs.....................Was
Dahlen..............Bos N....................Brkl
Elberfeld............NYA.....................Was
Herzog..............NYA........................... .................................................. ........Bos
Lake.................NYA.......................... .......................St Lo A...........................St Lo A
Kleinow.............NYA......................NYA.. .................................................. ......Bos A
Lundgren...........Cubs.....................KC
McIntyre...........Brkl........................... .......................Brkl & Cubs
Schaefer...........Det............................ .................................................. ........Was
F. Smith............Chi.......................Chi.... .................................................. ......Chi & Bos A
Willis.................Pitt....................... ...........................St Lo N

Designed as a 350/460 subject....but, not issued since Nicholls retired May 1910 upon being traded to Cleveland.

Nicholls.............A's.......................... ....................(would be Baltimore)



Demmitt..................................NYA & St Lo A

O'Hara....................................NYG & St Lo N

If the Demmitt & O'Hara variations were printed and issued during the 350/460 series (Summer/Fall 1910 release),
American Litho. would have identified them with these teams......

Demmitt.......................................NYA. ......................Montreal

O'Hara.........................................NYG .......................Toronto



Hopefully, this info provides you with an overall perspective on how the T206 designers kept pace with the player
changes during the T206 production era (1909-1911).



TED Z

[Matt]

Originally Posted by tedzan

In response to several requests, I'm listing here all the players in the T206 set whose trades or reassignments are
reflected in their repeated cards with respect to each series.

The list I'm interested in is which players did not have their trades or reassignments reflected? i.e. they were printed in a series after their trade or reassignment and the change was not made to their repeated cards.

[tedzan]

Matt

The above post is in response to several Net54 reader's requests....I was able to provide this info
off the top of my head.


It's not in response to your request. Your's will require some time to completely research.


TED Z

[jimonym]

Matt,

I'll have to double-check my totals, but with respect to the 350-only series cards...

202 different players are pictured.
Nearly all had their artwork/card designed during the late summer or fall of 1909. We know that because there were so many team changes that occurred throughout 1909, during the offseason, and following the spring training transactions.

By the opening of the 1910 season, somewhere around 60 of those 202 fellows were no longer with the team their 350-series T206 card shows them with.

Of those, only Demmitt and O'Hara were updated to show their new team.

I can post the list if anyone's interested.