Past events that i will address.......

[slantycouch]

On second thought, I'd really rather not get involved.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Jeff, the fact that you and others cringe in disgust when seeing the N word in JoAnn's post is precisely her point. Barfman's drivel was equally offensive to a woman, but most males are culturally conditioned to that sort of talk so that our threshold is much higher.

I am guessing that after an appropriate interval JoAnn will edit it out....

[calvindog]

Peter, good thing I've got Joann to tell me how to feel. I don't know how I survived this long without her life lessons.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Peter, good thing I've got Joann to tell me how to feel. I don't know how I survived this long without her life lessons.

That makes two of us wondering the same thing.

[Cat]

I was going to go back and read this thread so I can figure out what's going on but something tells me it would be a waste of time. So if someone could tell me who received demerits and who did not, I'll just move along to the next thread. That's all I really need to know.

[Wesley]

Don't bother, Cat. Here is a summary:

- Marshall Barkman made sexual comments a few months ago that Joanne found offensive.

- Joanne used racial slurs and anti-semitic remarks, not directed at a particular person, but rather to illustrate her point about how offensive Marshalls comments were.

- Other forum members found Joanne's use of racial slurs and anti-semitic remarks offensive.

- Joanne is considering deleting the racial slur and anti-semitic remarks, but for now she will leave them up.

- None of us know what it feels like to be a woman, Jewish or African-American

- Marshall Barkman has not posted today.

- Leon has not handed out any demerits.

That's what stood out to me and what I remember. Anyone else can feel free to fill in the blanks.

[Al C.risafulli]

The "N" in my avatar stands for "Newark."

-Al

[Cat]

Originally Posted by Wesley

Leon has not handed out any demerits.

Damn!

[vintagewhitesox]

Originally Posted by Wesley

- None of us know what it feels like to be a woman, Jewish or African-American

The Candy-Man can, (well, 2 out of 3). L'Shana Tova everybody!

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[Cat]

Originally Posted by Wesley

- Joanne used racial slurs and anti-semitic remarks, not directed at a particular person, but rather to illustrate her point about how offensive Marshalls comments were.

- Other forum members found Joanne's use of racial slurs and anti-semitic remarks offensive.

For the record, Blazing Saddles is one of my favorite movies. I'll wait for the ruling to see if this is a demeritable offense.

[Jim VB]

Joann did not call anyone, of any color or ethnicity, any name! She merely typed the words. She said she had been as insulted as if someone had used those other examples. And some have been deeply offended by this. Understood.

Now, imagine that someone had typed those words and actually directed them at you.


That's what Marshall did, to her.

[barrysloate]

Look, I also was surprised by Joann's vitriolic response, and my first reaction was she crossed a line. But I also know how deeply hurt she was by Marshall's comments to her, and I think all the fun she had posting on this board went south after he humiliated her like that. It takes a lot of anger to say what she said and I know it came from deep in her gut. And frankly, there are more than a few people here who are pretty angry at Marshall.

And if I had to guess his response, he will say he doesn't care what we think and we're all just a boring group of people. We're not cool enough to understand his rapier wit. Frankly, I think he should again leave the board and this time for good.

[jmk59]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

and I think all the fun she had posting on this board went south after he humiliated her like that.

I read this today while I was at work and started crying. Literally. I had to shut my office door. And believe me, that is not something that happens often - it takes a lot to get me there. But Barry got it right square - this is exactly what it felt like. His entire post was dead on.


I am going to edit my last post now. Why? To distinguish myself from Marshall. I think it should be clear that I intentionally used inflammatory words to make a point to him, not because I meant them literally (and I very much appreciate the posts plus emails and PM's I received from those of you that got that). But since many were offended, whether I meant it or not, I'm going to edit it. Not bitch about how lame you all are for not getting my drift, not go on about how awesome and courageous I am to be me being me, but change it. Because the last damn thing I want in this world is to be even remotely like Marshall.

We'll see what happens when he posts again. I'm guessing I already know.

And thanks to you guys that did stand up, and Barry for putting great simple words to it.

And on another note - HAPPY 40TH BIRTHDAY TO AL C!! Sorry Al, but I only have an hour left in this day and it was not going to get by me without birthday wishes for your 40th. :-) My Facebook is all messed up and won't let me post comments anywhere, so here it is! Be sure to have a few good beers - even Stroh's works ok - and consider 40 years well lived! :-)

And T - yes, I completely understand why you would so clearly remember the whole bar exam drill after 20+ years. The whole process - both the prep and the exam - is a unique experience. Yeesh. I don't think I will ever forget it.

J