T206 Museum is back up!

[Potomac Yank]

The violinist is no Stradivarius.

Reverse psychology never fails.
If you let them talk, you will always find out their shoe size.

I'm a great believer in letting them TALK.
Look what advance talking has done for the political world.
LET THEM TALK!

[danmckee]

I agree with Joe on this one. Banning Patrick would be a true loss. Every time he writes something on here, his ditch gets deeper and deeper.

I know you are a very nice guy Jon Canfield and you are by far my expert in packs but as far as I am concerned, there is no way those packs held, hold, or should ever hold cards. All based on the tax stamp. You can forget the part where they were made in 1910 but not released til 1917, I don't smoke but I imagine stoggies need to be fresh. McGee.

[jmk59]

I can't believe that Criminal Chan is on here discussing cards and back rarity and Nodgrass variations. What?

I have a really good friend who is the most honest person alive. Unfortunately, his wife went into the ditch and embezzled almost $50K from her employer - she was somewhere in the Accounting dept. They paid restitution, she had a supervision process, and she never actually went to jail.

Unsurprisingly, she still can't get an accounting job even years later. Her husband, my friend, is mystified by this. He asks me "Joann, she has paid her debt. How long will she have to be punished for this?"

Forever. That's the answer. In the accounting world, someone that embezzled from a position as an accountant is pretty much out of the field forever, right? Didn't matter that she didn't go to jail. She is ostracized by her profession.

Same here for Criminal Chan. He deceived and stole from this community, and attempted to steal more. Not in vague unknown ways to numerous unknown people, but within this small community where people know each other and in a major auction that everybody enjoys watching.

I can't believe that he is here talking T206. And I can't believe that anyone is engaging him on the merits of his T206 arguments or the update status of his website. The more we discuss pack dates and back rarity with him, the more it dilutes what he did.

Just because the criminal system elected not to punish him doesn't mean that he should get similar treatment from the collecting community that he defrauded all these years. Give him the heave-ho. Refuse to speak to him about any T206 topic that he raises. We can't complain about the justice system giving him a free pass if we are willing to give him one too.

J

[calvindog]

Joann, really eloquently stated.

[jmk59]

Thank you, Jeff. To be honest, your post upthread where you said he is a criminal plain and simple is what really got me thinking this way. You are right. He is a criminal. It's that simple.

J

ETA: haha JVB. The truth is that I am one of the biggest suckers in the world for a hard luck story or apology. I would be far from a hanging judge. If anything, I lean in the opposite direction. It just seems so bizarre to me that he is on here posting about cards.

[danmckee]

The problem with banning him and ignoring him is that his site is still up and newbes will find it and get suckered. Look at how many were suckered here at first. Treating that site as the gospel. I made my first post questioning who ran it about a year ago and the thread didn't get many responses and Jim and I were way in the minority of questioning it. New people will find it and think the info is good.

If we keep him here, it will remind some of us to every now and again go check that corrupt site.

I liked my idea of him turning the site over to the board and letting someone here run it but he never entertained that offer.

He kills himself every time he writes something stupid about those bogus packs. That he claims he opened.

If I found a pack like that and decided to open it, I would have a card party, have several people see the pack untouched, then film the actual opening. What a great event that would be!!

And I would then pull out a flag card.

[Jim VB]

Joann,

OK so the petty thieves, pimps, murderers, bankers, and Fortune 500 accountants will get off with a wrist slap.

Ebay scammers and guys selling fake cards will wonder why they are all in jail serving 25 to life.

[Jim VB]

I think Mr. Chan is extremely fortunate. Had he sold one of his fake cards to me, I would not have been so responsive to the offer of restitution in exchange for a free skate.

I suspect many others would feel the same way.


Edited to add- Joann, you're going to make a terrific lawyer, but a "hanging" judge! LOL!