T206 Museum is back up!

[cfc1909]

Black bar Old Mill do not exist- HOW ABOUT


T206 MUSEUM IS A FRAUD. PAT CHAN IS A SCAMMER. PAT CHAN CREATED BLACK BAR OLD MILLS AND THE T206 MUSEUM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NEW COLLECTORS.

PAT YOU PUSH TOO FAR. Pat you make it sound like the Museum is warning collectors about these and at the same time you are working on still scamming collectors.

I will figure out a way to send out a weekly reminder that

T206 MUSEUM IS A FRAUD!

PAT CHAN IS A SCAMMER!

PAT CHAN MADE THE BLACK BAR OLD MILL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERY COLLECTOR HE CAN.

-even if I have to pay for advertisement in all sport publications.

[cfc1909]

Pat if you were truly sorry, you would not have came back on 54 as Bond73 and try to feed us all that bullsh** @ Piedmont packs and does this guy have a printing factory in his basement.

PAT YOU ARE NO GOOD and the MUSEUM IS TOO GOOD TO YOU TO BE DOWN. There are too many perks that come with the Museum.

Print your name on the museum and tell everybdy that you are a scammer and made the museum to benifit on your scams.

A month ago you would have sold the black bar Old Mill for 35k and now you are trying to benifit by telling collectors they do not exist.


BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO BAD PEOPLE. IT IS CALLED KARMA. It also happens to good people but you would not know about that.

Le- sorry about the negative-it will stop here no more but I will continue to let all collectors know Pat Chan made the bar Old Mills and the Museum to scam collectors

[bond73]

Jim,

I have full documentations of where I obtained my Piedmont packs and I did pulled a t206 from one of the 12 counts Piedmont packs period. I have never altered or tampered with any tobacco packs. I know Jon Canfield said it is "impossible" to pull cards from those 12 counts Piedmont packs but I did pull a t206 from it and that's the fact. The same type of pack also pulled a t206 in the Robert Edward Auction so I do believe some of those Piedmont packs have t206s in them. I have no guts to open my other pack to prove it that's why I am willing to offer full refund to the next brave owner who decides to open it if there's no card in it. As I mentioned before, I am willing to take lie detector and fingerprint test on this matter.

I admitted I made a mistake on making those Old Mill black bar backs but I have never made anything else. I keep my site up just to educate collectors on t206s if anyone found any information that's incorrect or misleading I am more than happy to correct it.

Pat Chan

[danmckee]

I sent you an update on the Snodgrass info you had wrong on the site Pat. Let's see if you update it.

I personally don't think the site should stay up just because I don't trust that you will keep it legit.

Now I guess it isn't the site's fault so maybe if you give the name over to this board to have it maintained instead of you maintaining it, then I think it could become a useful tool to newcomers.

For the record, I am going to side with Jon Canfield on the packs. I am not saying Pat created them but I will say that it is impossible to guarantee a T206 baseball card is in them.

I don't think any card is in the 12 count packs but even if there were, how can you guarantee that it isn't a fish or a flag card?

Dan

[cfc1909]

I have put my effort in and nothing happens to this guy and he knows it so he taunts me and 54 members

[Potomac Yank]

I love you guys, and you mean well ... But!

This guy, and people like him, don't really care if you point him out.

He knows that the legal minds - investor/flippers and collectors, will NOT band together to get his @ss in Buttsville, where he could meet new friends ... all he has to do, is give back the money ... Isn't that right Pat?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by cfc1909

I have put my effort in and nothing happens to this guy and he knows it so he taunts me and 54 members

Jim, no good deed ever goes unpunished.

This guy crapped his pants when the FBI came knocking...he knows how lucky he is to skate on this. He's probably just got the "T-206 mania" again.

[rdwyer]

If I knew how to do a quote I would. Anyways, here's an email I got from Pat Chan:

Hi,

I could be wasting my time emailing you but if you think keeping my site up is a bad thing then you need to know the whole fact of this hobby and this Net54 board.

I found another message board by Scott Elkin, he exposes a lot
of wrong doing of the Net54 "clique" members. Based on what I read
basically everyone on the Net54 board including Leon Luckey, Dan McGee,
Jeff Lichtman, Brian Cataquet, Ivey family etc have scam other collectors
before. Scott Elkin also exposes Luckey runs his auction just to sell off
his "bad" cards. Those members just pretend they are good people on their
own board and cover each other's asses and those are the same people
pounding on me as well. Sorry to say that there are just no clean and
innocent collectors in this hobby. If my site needs to be shutdown so as
Net54 board and Luckey's auction.....at least I try my best to provide accurate info on t206s unlike Net54 board taking down "bad" posts that are against auction houses who paid them for banner advestisments. With that say, I do think I deserve a second chance. If you have time to read all Scott
Elkin's old messages, you will see what I am talking about and overall I
am not really that bad comparing to those Net54 "clique" members.

Regards,
Pat

I deleted the link to the website he provided, because it's a bunch of crap. The FBI visited Pat Chan only. Enough said. Get a life Pat Scam!

[barrysloate]

Holy crap! Where do you begin taking apart Patrick's email?

Patrick- that information is outrageous and I don't believe a word of it. This is going to get ugly.

[Anthony S.]

Pat,

I think Scott Elkins' paranoid diatri....um, message board is the perfect place for you. Do you like poultry?

[Potomac Yank]

After I deleted it, I kicked myself ... could've learned a lot about the T206 set from that novice.

[bond73]

Double post

[cfc1909]

what about -does he have a printing factory in his basement

[cfc1909]

years ago -i lost a brown lenox latham in a psa 2 holder to tfever on ebay and i always wanted to meet him and compare collections and notes on
t206s. I am so disappointed-words can't explain.

[bond73]

Jim,

"years ago -i lost a brown lenox latham in a psa 2 holder to tfever on ebay and i always wanted to meet him and compare collections and notes on
t206s. I am so disappointed-words can't explain."

I am not sure what you are referring to? You mean you lost in that ebay auction as a underbidder? If that's the case then I don't know what I did wrong. I have never stole any cards from anyone. Jim, fFeel free to email me to square this out.

[calvindog]

Pat, you didn't make a mistake -- you committed a crime. That's why you had an FBI agent at your door: to confront you about your crime. And you never would have made any restitution on your crime if not for an FBI agent scaring you so badly that you needed to change your underwear twice during the conversation with him.

[Potomac Yank]

There's only one thing that the Dr Koos, and Pat Chan's of the world understand ... and only pointing them out ... doesn't cut it.

The day that the investors, and collectors band together against these punks, that's the day when these punks will take us serious.

What amazes me, with all the legal minds around, the lice is still with us since 1991, when I last dealt with it.

Jim, once you spot them, ... you make them serve time with a butt mate.

[rdwyer]

Pat Chan AKA Pat Scam:

The only mention of a T206 card being pulled from a 12 count was from your site. I don't remember a card being pulled from REA, maybe Jon can chime in here. But I don't think so. If I remember, REA took it out of the auction because of concerns that it didn't contain a card.

Also, the Drum pouch has tobacco and nothing but! You're a fraud, and should be banned from here.

[three25hits]

T206MUSEUM-CROOKS.COM is available!

T206MUSEUM-LIES.COM is available!

T206MUSEUM-WE-BE-FRAUDS.COM is available!

[martyogelvie]

I think that posts like this and other vintage card message boards will be just as effective to warn new T206 collectors about the Museum as a counter site would. When you search Google for T206 or T206 museum, eventually this thread will come up in the search results hopefully educating new collectors as would a counter site like www.t206museum-fraud.com

[cfc1909]

"I am not sure what you are referring to? You mean you lost in that ebay auction as a underbidder? If that's the case then I don't know what I did wrong. I have never stole any cards from anyone. Jim, fFeel free to email me to square this out. "

I don't believe that you don't get it. " I don't know what I did wrong"

what about making a backs list on your site with your creations at the top of the list. That is what you did wrong. Trading/selling the Hart bar Old Mill for t206 cards that can't be replaced.
Consigning the Revelle to REA. That is what you did wrong.
Your site is all about what you can gain from collectors. You are not worried about educating collectors.

When I frist knew about the museum I read it and saw the Snodgrass information was wrong. When I emailed to try and get the information straight and sent scans. The return email asked me to send in my Nodgrass so it can be authenticated.
That is what you did wrong.

THIS IS WHAT YOU DID WRONG-I do beleive you know this and I believe you know nothing is going to happen to you legally. That is why you taunt. That is a crime in itself.

Pat it is a shame- a guy like you -with the knowledge of 206 and a great collection-scammed the hobby and is still trying to gain from it.