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Posted By: Harrison
Sports illustrated reported it. We can now truly refur to him as A-Fraud. Also, I guess we can really believe everything that Cansaco says now, he was saying this months ago. |
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Posted By: Erick Lewin
This is so ridiculous. As a Yankee fan I am truly disgusted and fed up with baseball in general. I was a huge A-Rod Supporter and am a huge Yankees fan. I am so disgusted and angered at baseball in general now. Can we hear some friggin non-Yankee names for once??!! |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Erick, I don't think ARod was leaked just because he is a Yankee; it's because he's the best player in the game. About 15% of all players tested positive and who knows how many others evaded detection? Bonds tested positive four times! The fact is, the past 15 years of baseball should hereafter be known as "The Steroid Era" and that's that. No one player is sacred and no player is above this. Surely ARod's responses to questions about his steroid use clinches it for me: he made no denials. Pitiful. Too bad steroids couldn't help ARod get a hit with two men on and two out in a playoff game.... |
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Posted By: brock
Erick, |
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Posted By: Erick Lewin
Jeff, |
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie
Sports Illustrated reported it, it must be true! what a joke.. who freaking reads SI anyway? |
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Posted By: Harrison
Also I bit of random information. Kirk Radomski, the guy that leaked a lot of this information is from my town, Lindenhurst, NY and is my friends uncle.. |
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Posted By: Erick Lewin
Brock, |
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Posted By: macboube
Did you see that Bonds not only tested positve several times for ROIDS throughout his career, but as recently as 2005 or 2006 he tested positive for AMPHETAMINES! |
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Posted By: Brian
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Posted By: Richard Simon
"When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."" |
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Posted By: JDRUM
Does anyone really find any of this surprising anymore? |
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Posted By: John K
Jeff, the figure is 11.5% tested positive. As a Red Sox fan, I also would like to know the other 103 who were dirty. No Hall of Fame for Alex. No records for Alex. No listing him as one of the top ten players of all time. Period! Alex could take that EASY swing, meet the ball, and still hit a (phony) homer. Unfair advantage. Unfair to Ruth, Hank, Ted, Foxx . . . etc. |
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Posted By: dennis
the great a-rod a cheat? say it ain,t so! for the super star ball-player in the 2000s, the top of the heap is your contract is about to end so you say you would like to resign with your home team. of course you put up (steroid aided?) big numbers and hire the greediest agent you can find to represent you. after a big offer from your team(that would assure them of not being able to field a major league level team for the next 5 years)but wait, then the yankees swope in and offer you a contract that no other team can match (see giambi,clemens,arod and the 3 new comers this year)and make the contract for 4 or 5 years. the win at all cost yankee mantra to hell with baseball fans . yet they still can't win with this cast of mercenaries!! what would surprise me is if there was a member of the yankees that didn't test positive for enhancement drugs! then write taat in sports illustrated,and put it on the cover. hey mannys still out there wouldnt he look good in the pinstripes??? |
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Posted By: brock
Dennis, |
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Posted By: Don
The comissioner needs to make a Landis type pronouncement. |
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Posted By: macboube
ManRam was and will be a Dodger...............we'll take him positive or negative. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
just like the book says..... |
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Posted By: Michael Steele
A-Fraud....But he has plenty of company. |
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Posted By: Richie
Well A-fraud or A-Roid you choose. Who will be next on this so called list. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Let's face it- for a period of time taking steroids became a way of life for many major league ballplayers. There was a veil of silence among all major leaguers, even the ones that didn't inject themselves. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
The records will never be stricken even though they should. Remember, baseball is a business first. How do you think Hank Aaron feels? First that cheater Bonds breaks his record and now A-Roid will break it next? Disgraceful. |
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Posted By: cn
It can,t be true! Alex told Katie Couric on 60 Minutes that he would never use Steroids. What a loser he is. All that money and he will never be happy.CN |
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Posted By: Rhys
The saddest part of the whole deal is that he was at his best as an all around player when he was a young skinny kid playing for Seattle. |
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Posted By: Brian T.
I couldn't help but have a selfish smirk on my face when I read this news today. The reason is that my last big A-Rod rookie card sold on eBay yesterday. I am in the process of selling off all my shiny stuff anyway as I wade into vintage, but my high end ARod RC collection was easily the cornerstone of the collection. Anyway, the timing of this report worked out extremely well for me personally. It is pretty unlikely that any personal information about pre-war guys will come out and have a detrimental effect on their card values. That pleases me. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Sad day for Baseball. I really did think he was one of the good guys. Just by his answer it says he is Guilty! |
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Posted By: John K
I assume you refer to the Red Sox as signing overpaid free agents who are roid users. Outside of Manny, who are you talking about? |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Did you see Selig's salary last year? $17M, I think it was. And that money comes from the owners. |
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Posted By: D. C. Markel
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Can anyone explain to me why ARod should not be lumped in with Bonds, McGwire, Raffy and Sosa when it comes to the HOF? |
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Posted By: JDRUM
to all positions, add Clemens to your list. |
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Posted By: Patrick McHugh
This should come as no shock. The amount of anabolic use in all and I mean all sports is higher than you would want to know. Very few baseball players from any era have the talent to put up big numbers. The last 20 years big numbers have become the norm for far to many players. Not only in baseball but in all sports. One only needs to go back 50 years and look at world records in olympic events and than see that these times distances etc are matched or beaten by almost every competitor in todays events. The excuse always used is better scientific training, better food etc. Translation better drugs and more of them. |
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Posted By: Don
"Shortly after the Super Bowl post-game show ended on NBC last Sunday night, I switched over to ESPN to watch their post-game show. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Woops, Jeff, forgot him. Put him at the top of the list of steroid cheaters. |
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Posted By: PC
The Yankees are not being singled out here. The Mitchell report names plenty of players who are not Yankees. I read the complete report, including all the annexes. It is fair on its face, and would be more comprehensive if players and teams actually cooperated (which they did not do). Two of the primary sources of info worked for the NY teams, so it stands to reason that the Yanks and Mets get mentioned, perhaps more than other teams, but I don't think any one team is being targeted. Some of the most interesting material in the report involves the Red Sox. |
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Posted By: E, Daniel
Funnily enough, of Americas favourite sports it is probably Basketball and its ego maniacs that is least likely to be filled with steroid users.....being an endurance - stringy-muscles sport, as opposed to burst, fast-muscle-twitch high muscles mass exponents favoured in football and baseball. |
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Posted By: brock
Jeff, |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I don't particularly hate ARod. Clemens, on the other hand, I despise. I hope ARod comes clean but based on his history of immaturity, selfishness and shallowness of personality I expect him to stick his head in the sand. Or do whatever his many handlers or a focus group tells him. |
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Posted By: Anthony S.
No Brock, Bonds didn't take steroids for most of his career. All the witnesses/reports have said that he started using right around 1999 or 2000 at the age of 35. Did he break McGwire's single season and Aaron's career record for homers due to steroids? Without a doubt. But he he was called up to the Majors in 1986 and was a 3 time MVP and first ballot HOFer before he ever went the 'roid route. Anyway you slice it, Bonds was and is a first class pill, he makes a great villain, but with all masking agents out there and the financial and egotistical incentives to use steroids, the notion that ARod probably just used that one year and has compiled his surreal statistics on talent alone is pretty far-fetched. |
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Posted By: JDRUM
".......Or do whatever his many handlers or a focus group tells him." |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
I can't say this is a surprise--also undoubtedly true. |
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Posted By: Bobby I.
A few thoughts: |
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Posted By: sagard
To the thread about the football tie in: |
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Posted By: JohnnyH
Steriods has always been such a big part of the NFL no one gives it a second thought when someone tests positive, it is not a shock at all and hasn't changed the game like it has in baseball. I think the fallout from the latest news will end up falling on Selig and take the focus off the players, the initial shock is over. When Jeter, A-Rod, and Garciaparra were at the top of their game in the late nineties I had hope the game was turning around but it's been downhill ever since. |
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Posted By: Jason L
how do you think Hank Aaron feels...? |
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Posted By: Dan
Well Arod just admitted to Peter Gammons that he used performance enhancers in 2001, 2002 and 2003. I do blame the Union for the fact that the test results could have been destroyed after 30 days after they were taken in 2003. They were never destroyed. The union failed in this respect. |
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Posted By: Bobby I.
Well Roid-Rod admitted use after he consults with his "Pal" Boras. Admits it after getting caught, thinking we forgave Giambi and Pettitte we will forgive him. Wrong, with Giambi we knew what we were getting he never pretended to be a saint, Pettitte, home grown and we beleive he only used 2-3 times and he is a sincere person, no other motives. Roid-Rod is not sincere in the least, he has no excuse, he is a non sypathetic figure and not a likeable figure, by admitting it I dislike him even more, he is a pariah. Good luck buddy, you can choke on that future #800 hr ball. |
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Posted By: Richie
With all of his millions the sad part is he probaly dont care. Very sad. As the front of the NY Post reads "A-HOLE" cant say it any better then that. |
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Posted By: Alan U
I don't like the reason he's coming forward, but I do like the fact he is admitting his use. |
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Posted By: Steve
I'd like to see just one of the remaining 103 |
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