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Old 12-03-2008, 12:06 PM
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Default Did everyone catch this story, I missed it when it aired

Posted By: boxingcardman

Some people you suspect are ignorant; others open their mouths and confirm it. Let the dumbness speak for itself.

As far as the stories on the card go, I think we are at the point where fair reporting has to include appropriate skepticism and direct confrontation, Mike Wallace style. Everyone in the card business who could make these guys money--every reputable dealer, auctioneer, etc.--would kill to sell a legit Wagner. So who do these guys go to: some no-name in a strip mall. Everyone in the hobby tells these guys that the only way the card gets sold is if it is passed on by a major third party grader. Despite that, the card owners will not let it be submitted to a TPG, supposedly out of concerns for the card's safety. Yet they are willing to have various forensic "experts" poke around the card. Of course, those "experts" are their hand-picked people, are not associated with the hobby and carry no weight among the people who might successfully sell or actually buy the card. In my business we call that "whore-shopping"; if you try hard enough you can find someone with credentials to pass as an expert who will say just about anything you want.

All I see is a couple of very clever con men trying to throw up just enough credible information to get someone who is wealthy, greedy and ignorant enough to put up the money to buy the card at a "bargain" price, at which they will reluctantly sell it.

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