Who Are The Hobby's Most Influential New Collectors

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Posted By: barrysloate

Al- there are so many disparate personalities in the hobby, and so many competitive people fighting it out for the best pieces. It would be great if everyone got along, but we are kind of a little society and fighting is going to happen.

However, arrogance and condescension have no place. Likewise, hateful personal emails attacking good people are entirely unacceptable. But it doesn't look like that will change either.

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Posted By: jeffdrum

I think it is called reaping what you sow.

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Posted By: pas

(sings) All we are saying....
Is give peace a chance.....

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Can't anybody here play this game?

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Posted By: Joseph Shirley

I find this whole discussion rather funny. I suppose it is because I do not have a dog in this fight. I just trudge along and upgrade my collection when I can. No one really influences me, let alone 3 so called major players (LOL). If my collecting habits ever sink to the level "my stuff is better than your stuff pissing contests", then it will be time for me to move on.

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Posted By: JimCrandell

Rhett Yeakley--"I'm sure you will ignore this post"

No, I won't Rhett.

1)Bruce's e-mails--I not only do not condone this behavior, I abhor it. If indeed he is sending vile e-mails to other board members I think its a terrible thing to do.

2)"I swear, Jim..you must wait for times when you can go against the general populous of the board. You must salivate when there appears to be an opening to spew your rhetoric." This is largely true. I would much rather be on the minority side and speaking up for a point of view that is attacked then be a piler oner.

3)"How do you justify coming to the defense of Bruce after what he did to Josh?" Who's Josh--and what did Bruce do? I am not coming to Bruce's defence. I said it was a good post. I interpreted his post as who is coming into the hobby spending the big bucks? Sure his attitude is condescending but I can easily look through that. I think he does it just for effect. I care about the content and I think the content of his posts
is the best on the board. I want to know who the new big hitters are in the hobby.

4)I like teachers and would never attack someone for their professionm. If Josh is a teacher great-- I skim the posts and only focus on what interests me--must have missed this one.

5)I don't see why everybody can't focus on the aspect of vintage cards they like the best. I don't care that much about the nuances of particular sets that I am not involved in or the latest ebay thread.

What I care about is graded cards, graded sets, the rankings in the set registry, the populations, the prices, card alteration. I love the sport, I love the hobby and the advent of card grading has added an exciting new dimension to me.

To each his own.

Jim

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Posted By: Gene Palmer

Perhaps it's time to discover the hobby's most influential bottom feeders. I know I'd never get to the surface on what I make for a living. But then again you have to remember, there's a nut for every squirrel.

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Posted By: pas

Time for the "piler oners" to pile on.

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Jim, fair enough & thanks for the reply. If you didn't see Josh Levine's post in reference to Bruce's condescending emails then I am sorry for assuming you had and were coming to his/their defense.

-Rhett

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Posted By: leon

Your last post was actually pretty good.....You and I collect differently but there is no harm in that. Sometimes I do think you take the minority view just to be the minority.....I could be wrong though...and ya know what? I also do that every now and then....(see T213-1 thread).Also, another difference is that you care who the big spenders in the hobby are...me, not so much. I would rather make friendships and acquaintenances based on other things..Type collectors are some of my best friends in the hobby..........best regards

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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

"you care who the big spenders in the hobby are...me, not so much."

Don't tell Scott Brockelman that.

-Al

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Posted By: leon

I actually thought about our auction business when I said that....then I said to myself "Self, if we have the cards the spenders will come"......Most of the whales visited our auction last time. We think we are well positioned for the future. ..regards

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Posted By: Dave F

Leon-

Trying to read through the lines as to if "most of the whales visited our auction" really means "most of our buying crowd was relatively chubby, and we may do well handing out free appetizer vouchers for our next auction".

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Posted By: Brian

<<"Self, if we have the cards the spenders will come">>

The truest statement in the history of this board.

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Posted By: Chuck Ross

I think Jim's last post hit on a crucial point: the difference between collecting as a hobby (i.e. Burdick mailing out his T206 Wagner to other collectors so they could see it) and collecting as a sport (i.e. the registry, grading, population reports, etc), with all the competition and testosterone that comes with it. Nothing inherently wrong with either path, but most of the angst on this board comes when people on one path intersect with those on the other.

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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

Leon:

I was just busting your chops.

-Al

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Posted By: Bob

A few financially well off folks who bid up the value of an extremely rare card have no effect on me. Nor do they affect most of us hobbyists. Most of us will never own a T206 Wagner. And while we contemplate such ownership, fantasize about owning one, watch the Wagner auctions, and enjoy the posts about the Wagner cards; that doesn't affect us because we won't ever own one. Most of us here won't ever own a T231 Fan card. So the next time one sells, we'll all be interested in it, but it doesn't afftct us at all. It won't influence our collecting.


Amen.

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Posted By: Cat

I never once got layed because I told a chick I had a great baseball card collection!!!

I just think that needed to be said.

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Posted By: leon

You never asked a girl if she wanted to check out your Johnson? (argh, argh, argh)- insert double smiley

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Posted By: Cat

And then she said: "You told me you would show me your Johnson and you end up showing me your Wee Willie!"

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Posted By: Steve

So has the 3 new players been named yet?


Steve

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Posted By: MVSNYC

Steve- naaaah, we're just having fun at this point.


how 'bout Giambi's moustache?

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Posted By: MikeU

"So has the 3 new players been named yet?"

That is the amazing part, 173 posts in and there is no list of potential new player names. Maybe within the next 173 posts, it will become clearer.

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Posted By: Jason

My wife's friends make fun of my hobby and I think she is quietly embarrassed. One of her best friends asked me if I was 7. I said "No I'm seven trapped in a 31 year olds body and income."

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

One of them was identified by Tom Nieves way up in this thread. Minyoung Sohn - a former head of the Janus Fund is going crazy on ebay with the BIN's - $50,000 BIN's.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

"I never once got layed because I told a chick I had a great baseball card collection!!!"

Me neither; but I have gotten laid despite my card collecting. It isn't exactly the coolest thing you can tell a woman. Or, as my wife says before every National: "Go have fun with the other dip***ts."

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: Alan

Cat - That comment calls for a double

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Posted By: paulstratton

Cat,

If you told them what it's worth you might have more success.

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Posted By: Joe D.

After giving this a lot of thought....
I have come to the conclusion that I am the most influential new collector.

I struggled with maybe it being Sarno.

But.... after much reflection.... its me.

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Posted By: jeff lichtman

I'd second Joe D -- it's because of him that I've sold off my Kurt Bevacqua collection and started buying Old Tom Morris cards.

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Bevacqua, eh, Lichtman? That's right up there with my creepy shrine to Bob Tewksbury. I finally had to destroy the thing--it was taking over my entire life.

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Posted By: T206Collector

"Or, as my wife says before every National: 'Go have fun with the other dip***ts.'"

My pizza literally flew out of my mouth in laughter at that one.

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Posted By: JimB

Jeff,
I hope you didn't sell the '81 Fleer error card of Bevaqua. Say it ain't so.
JimB

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Posted By: MVSNYC

"After giving this a lot of thought....
I have come to the conclusion that I am the most influential new collector.

I struggled with maybe it being Sarno.

But.... after much reflection.... its me."


Joe- i can't believe it took 179 posts for my name to come up...i would have guessed that i would have been mentioned around post # 4 or 6 at least...



Joe D. gets my vote!

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Posted By: Darren

I have it on the down low--a local billionaire my be entering the vintage card market. (local to Cut Off, LA)

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Posted By: John S

My 11-year neighbor. I was talking to his father last night and the boy and some of his friends were trading cards (Topps series 2 I believe) on the front porch. It reminded me why I started collecting over thirty years ago: (A) because it can be a lot of fun (B) friendships can be built around a love of baseball and collecting.

My wife also laughs when I attempt to explain some of the caste struggles that exist on the board. Here common response is "you guys are arguing about baseball cards?"

Just some obeservations of a happy little minnow.

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Posted By: Red

Louisiana...Billionaire??? Is is this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Cannon

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Posted By: Darren

Not quite.

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Posted By: whitehse

I have to say that I have had a half hour to kill at work and this post fit neatly into my schedule. It had all the elements needed to keep my attention. Arrogance, humor, greed, Jim C, all sprinkled with a bit of sarcasm. Geez I have to make this years national dinner to meet all these actors!! Leon can I rsvp in this post!! LOL

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Posted By: MVSNYC

...not quite Pre-War (sorry Leon)...but it is an interesting article...and i think it's appropriate to post it in this thread, since it is discussing his "influence" on the hobby.

http://www.psacard.com/articles/article_view.chtml?artid=5389&universeid=314


“This is one of the greatest runs of post-World War II baseball rookie cards in the hobby. The vast majority of cards are the finest examples known,” said Joe Orlando, PSA President and Editor of Sports Market Report.

“We are honored to display such a remarkable collection, owned by such an outstanding MLB player and collector. Someone like Dmitri Young can have a great impact on current and future collectors by sharing his amazing collection with the hobby, and he’s kind enough to loan it for display at this year’s show. Simply put, it’s a collection that surpasses all superlatives,” said Orlando.

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Posted By: leon

I agree...that is a good story and certainly is in keeping in context of this thread. Thanks for posting....

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Posted By: JimCrandell

Dmitri is a long-time collector who has had his rookie card collection for some time. I had thought he switched part of his collection over to GAI three years back or so due to his friendship with Rocchi/Baker--perhaps he switched them back?

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Posted By: boxingcardman

When I have a little time to kill at the show.

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

After reading this thread I am planning to create a creepy tribute to Faye Throneberry.