NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #22  
Old 04-23-2008, 07:19 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default "The Monster" is the name I gave T206

Posted By: Ryan Christoff

"Ryan, it sounds like you think that voluntarily entering a contract, then intentionally breeching it for the purpose of your own financial gain and at the expense of the other party is to be applauded, at least if that other party is eBay."

Yes, Jeff, that's exactly what I think. Did you think by framing it as breech of contract I would see the folly of my ways and suddenly realize what a truly reprehensible action it was that I suggested something like that should be applauded?
---------------------

"My question would be where do you draw the line? If it's OK to take advantage of (essentially defraud) eBay, then who else is it OK to do this to?"

Would you like a list? How about SCP/Sotheby's, for example? Or pick any other slimy company who makes money by ripping people off. Just be sure to pick an actual slimy company of scumbags instead of the ethical juggernaut we know SCP/Sotheby's to be. We already know they would never "take advantage of" or "essentially defraud" anyone. So pick Microsoft or Wal-Mart or Halliburton or whoever it's trendiest to hate. It's not a slippery slope. There are no gray areas with what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it's okay to go murder Bill Gates or rob your local Wal-Mart. I'm saying that people or companies who screw people deserve to taste their own medicine sometimes. I'm not going to dispense this justice myself, but I'm absolutely fine with it happening. I would certainly never encourage someone to engage in anything illegal, but it's worth noting that if you or anyone else were to "take advantage" of SCP/Sotheby's, (as a totally random example) for instance, I'm pretty sure it would mean that somewhere far, far away, an angel gets their wings.
---------------------

"I'm not here to defend eBay's business practices."

That might not be why you're here in a metaphysical or ontological sense, Jeff, but that's certainly why you're here in this thread. It's Bill's unethical breech of contract that seems to bother you. Not his ending auction early. Or even better, it's his inability to take ownership of this action that really gets you. So let's say Bill ended the auction early (which is the part that most of us have the issue with) and then set up a buy-it-now for the bidder to do at whatever price they agreed upon. If the transaction still went through ebay so that ebay still got their cut and would be able to feed their children for at least one more night, would you still be here sticking up for all the poor and underprivileged corporate monopolies who can't stick up for themselves?

As noble as the charitable work you do on behalf of ebay might be, I don't think you would have even posted if your breech-of-contract radar hadn't gone off. The point of your initial post was to scold Bill for bullying ebay and But just because you believe in and follow the rules, that doesn't make it ethical, either. I guess it's all just a matter of opinion. Some might consider it unethical to come to the defense of a giant monopoly who'd been denied the opportunity to be paid a few dollars on a single tiny transaction. Others might consider such behavior the very model of ethics in the modern world.

-Ryan

Reply With Quote
 



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
6 more ORIGINAL T206 "The Monster" by Bill Heitman copies on ebay Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 03-17-2009 10:03 AM
Ebay Original copy of T206 "The Monster" a must reference guide Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 03-11-2009 10:09 PM
Looking to purchase a copy of Bill Heitman's "The Monster" Archive Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 0 09-11-2008 02:04 PM
I really would like to have T206 " The Monster " by Bill Heitman 1980 Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 10-20-2005 12:00 PM
Not having any luck finding Heitman's "T206 the Monster" Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 07-30-2002 08:06 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:53 PM.


ebay GSB