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What to buy
Posted By: TONY III
I am looking to invest in a set or key card set over the next 2 years and would like a little advice from the experts. If you had $50,000 to spend what would you buy. |
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What to buy
Posted By: leon
If I am not mistaking there are registry sets that might not include cards that are only all 8's or 9's or very high grade. I would always suggest pure rarity over condition rarity as I think they will do better over the long run, in value....At least they have so far, imo, except in certain cases of a Mantle in a 10 or Paige...or something like that. regards |
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What to buy
Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Tony- sit tight and I will have a Galvin and Nichols for you! (shameless plug, I know). |
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What to buy
Posted By: Cashews
if i had 50 grand sitting around and wanted to complete a set i'd choose the american caramel e90 set. the cards are beautiful and even with the cobb and wagner cards putting together a nicely graded set would be within the 50 grand limit. |
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Posted By: Jason L
not the best mature asset class for investment (yet), but Leon is right...rarity over condition rarity over scarcity, HOFers in tiers over commons...stick to the favorite sets with a collector following...you saw what happened with the surprise over the 1st segment of the Skydash collection |
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Posted By: James Gallo
Either Cracker Jack set would be perfect. Very nice cards, tons of HOFs, high demand set all good signs for investment. |
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Posted By: JimB
If it is merely an investment, for that kind of money I would buy a T206 Plank, Cobb/Cobb back, E90-1 Joe Jackson, or other high demand rarities. I would either take the plunge with one of those, or buy 3-5 cards in the 10-15k range. I don't think most sets are the best bet as investments for the short term (2 years), though there are exceptions. |
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What to buy
Posted By: Jeff Prizner
I don't think sets are a good investment at all. People enjoy putting them together piece by piece. |
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Posted By: Cashews
if i had to pick say 3 cards to get with 50 grand it would be: |
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Posted By: Jeff Prizner
you could buy maybe a small piece of a t210 Jackson for 50k. |
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Posted By: Cashews
really? they go that high? i haven't really seen one for sale but figured they sold for what his "rookie" caramel goes for. what does the stengel t210 go for? |
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What to buy
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Barry, will the Nichols be an Omaha card by chance? |
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What to buy
Posted By: Cashews
a nicely graded collins mccarthy rogers hornsby would be a nice pick up with some change to spare. |
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Posted By: JimB
Cashews, |
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Posted By: steve
Just my opinion - do a little price research and go for a few high end singles - but don't overspend, ie, try to get some value. |
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Posted By: pat
i agree with leon 100 percent. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Dan- yes, it is Omaha, and to my knowledge he is only known on that team. There is no 1890 Boston pose. |
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What to buy
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I'm sure I'm about to make a statement that will cause insults to rain down all over me, but if I had $50,000 and was going to buy baseball cards, and consider them an "investment", I would also be considering the popularity of the player and the size of the potential market once I was ready to sell. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
He does have the Mayo card so I didn't want to assume it was an OJ you were talking about...It will probably be out of my price range, but I can hope. |
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Posted By: Jeff Prizner
Al, that's crazy talk. Let's get him! |
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What to buy
Posted By: leon
Please email as soon as you can at lluckey@moredirect.com......I need to discuss something with you asap and don't have your email address at hand... |
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Posted By: Jeff Prizner
damn Barry, what else do you have coming up in your auction? |
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What to buy
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Al, I think you're correct. Popularity of the player will probably always trump rarity in future value. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Dan- you're absolutely right. I assumed I mentioned OJ. My bad. |
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Posted By: Jason L
my entire collection for $50k |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
"If it is merely an investment, for that kind of money I would buy a T206 Plank, Cobb/Cobb back, E90-1 Joe Jackson, or other high demand rarities. I would either take the plunge with one of those, or buy 3-5 cards in the 10-15k range. I don't think most sets are the best bet as investments for the short term (2 years), though there are exceptions." |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Prizner, keep insulting me and I'm outta here. I'll go start my own damn board. |
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Posted By: Cashews
investing is hard. to me, it seems like a smarter move, in purely investment returns wise, to buy 50 cards for 1000 each than a few high dollar cards. the reason why i say that is because lets say you buy a t206 plank and spend 20 k. chances are in a few years if you re-sell it you're only going make maybe 10 k more after your initial investment. that sounds like a lot but if you were to buy say 50 cards worth 1000 each that in 10-15 years start selling for 1500 each, you've just made 25 k. imagine if the cards begin selling for 2000 each. its a tough call but to me it doesn't seem like the price of those high dollar cards is rising like the prices for say t206 HOFers graded at 5's or 6's are. but that could always change. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Why not just put together a collection you will enjoy and be proud of? Only you can decide what to buy, just try to get the best quality you can. |
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Posted By: Darren
I generally like variety so |
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Posted By: Bob
See, I guess I have a totally different philosophy about buying cards for investment purposes. I totally realize that set completion (and I am a big "set completer guy") may not offer the best return when you are putting it together card by card, but the thrill of the chase and the feeling of satisfaction does count for something. I know a lot of you don't want to pay high prices for a Doolan or a Gray or a Hoblitzell, but having a complete set is a thrill to some of us. As far as the economics go, rather than springing for a T210 Jackson or a high priced PSA 7, 8 or 9 prewar card, I'll let the guys who want to do that, do that, and more power to them. I would rather have a complete set in collectible (vgexish) condition. The upside may not be as great but the slippery slope downhill isn't there either. Regardless of how the economy stymies future card prices realized, I can always know that there will be a solid market for a nice E90-1 set or a T206 set minus the Big 4 or a colorful E94, 97 or 98 set, etc. Rarity DOES mean something, I agree, but if the "whales" disappear the harbor of high priced cards may be a lot less desirable... |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Bob, I know you completed the M116 set - how hard to find was Bill Davidson? |
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Posted By: Bob
Dan- he was definitely one of the tougher cards to find. I believe I finally got him about 5 from the end, he rarely shows up. Not all 300 subject cards are created equal, some appear fairly frequently, some almost never. I think Tim N. is still working on his M116 set although he is getting close to completion and I recall Davidson was tough for him also... |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I see Eddie Collins with a 300 back fairly often. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
That's what I was afraid of...Davidson's only card is that M116 is it not? |
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Posted By: Martin Neal
Hi Tony, |
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Posted By: Tony III
What about trying to collect the OJ N172's set, with only one variation of each player. I know someone had either a complete set or almost a complete set that went to auction with Mastro about a year ago. I know that it would run more like $100k, but I could at least start it. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
You can get this one for under $30,000. Make them an offer. |
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Posted By: Matt
TONY - are you looking to have fun with your $50k or do what's best as far as an investment goes. Depending on where you are in that spectrum, the answer will be different. |
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Posted By: Tony III
Thanks for the links Jim. I am tempted to make an offer on the SGC 20. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
check out REA, you can certainly have some "fun" with $50K there... |
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Posted By: Matt
Then I would suggest you do not spend it all on 1 or 2 cards - you'd get much more entertainment value out of putting together a collection (whether it be a manufacturer issued set, or a personally constructed set, e.g. a "HOFer RC set") as you'd get a sense of accomplishment with each piece you acquire as well as the satisfaction at the end of a job completed. |
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Posted By: Scott Mt. Joy
I like your OJ N172's set idea! |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Keep with your current theme. It is both creative and sufficiently mainsteream. |
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