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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ron Duff
What do you think? |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: fkw
Are you asking what is the scarcest error? If so, the "Magie" is not the scarcest, not even within the T206 set. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The Joe Doyle card with ths "NAT'L" caption next to NY is probably the most scarce "error" card |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Jay
As Ted stated, the Doyle has about 6 known examples. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: davidcycleback
I would count the Magie as clearly an error, as his name is mispelled. It's not as clear whether |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: mvsnyc
FYI... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I just know you guys were waiting for me to weigh in on this... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: mvsnyc
doyle story: there is joe doyle & larry doyle...originally they had titled this card "doyle, ny nat'l", but it was clearly the wrong doyle, because his hands were above his head in a pitchers wind-up...so it was mistakenly depicted the wrong doyle...they quickly corrected this flub, by taking "ny nat'l" off the rest of production, mistake fixed, very very rare card created... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Great....the more the merrier....maybe that will drive down the price on these Doyle cards. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
MVSNYC |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I find for the 1st time on this Forum that I am not in agreement with you. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: mvsnyc
ted- how do you know that there are 200 "near" T206 sets? just curious... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
After 30+ years in this hobby I have gotten to know many T206 collectors and dealers. Not as many |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: MVSNYC
you sound qualified enough to me...i respect your estimates... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
Ted,did you really just say there are "many more than 200 near sets" ?? I know weve had threads asking for sets on the board and we come up with about 20-30 current and not all of them include the Demmitt or O'Hara. I will never believe theres as many as 600 each of them and im willing to bet that between the 2 that 600 is a high estimate. We dont see them that often,maybe 10 a year each but we are also seeing the same ones some of those times,these arent 10 new ones each year. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Did I say there were 600 T206 sets out there....I guess I implied it by my "5 x" factor. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
Ted i also didnt say you said 600 sets. I said 600 referring to the Ohara/Demmitt numbers only |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I don't think this Forum needs another T206 Survey for a while.....I'll pass on this one. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: davidcycleback
I didn't as absolute statement say the Doyle wasn't an error-- and in fact said I saw both sides to the argument. Though, |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
DAVID |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Ted.... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
Ted,the Magie portrait came from a Carl Horner photo and its the same picture that was used for his w600 and can be seen in the 1906 w601 Phillies composite photo as well. Its very likely it was a spelling error,plus theres plenty of other spelling errors in the set so its not like they were perfect,his just happened to be corrected for some reason |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
FRANK |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
OK... I'm trying to fire up old brain cells for a moment. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
Ted,Magie isnt the only player with 2 different spellings so they obviously cared some.Off the top of my head,Willett,Mullin,Nicholls and Doolan all have names spelled right and wrong so someone mustve said something. Maybe it was too big of a deal to change Magie to Magee so they left the others. I cant see them mixing up a superstar who had a picture that was used at least three times before with some guy who never made the majors |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Your paragraph starting with...."Maybe the Doyle NY Nat'l card....is a nice summation of what |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: JimB
Ted, |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Jay
This thread started out asking if the Magee error is the scarcest error card in the hobby and the answer is obviously no. There are, for example, a few Old Judge errors that are much scarcer. A Dalyrymple spelling error that was found a few years ago is much scarcer than the Magee. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Joann
John, |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
Joanne,i said those players have cards with correct and incorrect spelling to prove what i said afterwards as a possible reason why only Magie/Magee was changed and that was maybe they changed the Magie plate and found out it was too much of a problem so they didnt change the others right away,meaning they waited for another card of the player to change the spelling. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Joann
Oh I see. That makes sense - they changed the spelling or whatever on one card, Magie/Magee, realized it was a pain and stopped doing it on other cards. Maybe they only then corrected what they thought were true factual errors - wrong team, player or league, but decided to only correct minor spelling mistakes on future cards. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: davidcycleback
I know some one this board will think this nuts, but the best way to identify the rarest and scarcest |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The following T206's are spelling errors of NO CONSEQUENCE..... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: john/z28jd
It looks like they corrected some of the names and didnt care about others,and got others wrong after being right and you dont even have all of them listed that were wrong.I still say they knew that was Magee because it was a known photo at the time they borrowed from at least 3 other sources.I dont think they couldve mixed up those 2 players when the photo was from 1906 or prior and hes in a Phillies uniform |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Just responding to your earlier question..... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: dan mckee
Magie is the only true error in the T206 set. |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Bob
If Demmitt and O'Hara variation cards are available in equal numbers, how come the Demmitt consistently sells for more on ebay and in auctions? Just wondering... |
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Scarcest error - T card of Magee ?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
BOB M |
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