One Final Informal Poll on Taking Out Creases

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Posted By: T206Collector

"I would be interested in your thoughts on my point that detectable or not is not an objective, binary inquiry and therefore is not a valid test for whether an alteration is acceptable."

Definitely agree. My point was that the hardline purists do not care, even if the world was a binary inquiry. Thus, to make my point, it was unnecessary to look into the real world shades of gray. Even if non-detection was forever certain, the purists would still balk.

"As for me, as a buyer of vintage cards I would be very upset to find out that I paid for an EX+ or NM card to find out that it only achieved that grade due to someone’s tampering with its original state. Not only would I be upset due to the extra money wasted, but also for me when I look at my cards it’s neat to know they have survived in their current condition all these years, and in a fact haven’t been juiced or undergone major cleaning jobs to get where they are today."

But the fact is that, in a binary detection/non-detection world, no money would be "wasted" and Wonka would never know that cards had or had not "surviced in their current condition all these years." Even in the real world, with detection a theoretical possibility, it may never be known.

"It’s like replica cars there are people who would love to have a Shelby Cobra 427 replica kit car. And there’s nothing wrong with that, in fact can’t drop 250k+ on a real one it's the next best thing. That works fine for some, me I would only want the real thing, if I cant afford it I find something I can afford and love it equally as much."

This analogy would apply only if we were doctoring up old Honus reprints, which, of course, we're not.