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Posted By: Scott Mosley
I'm sure it will find a new home but I hope this doesn't mean we'll have to go without for too long.... |
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Posted By: Alan
Holy _____ !!! I guess the March & May shows are still there as usual... |
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Posted By: Kevin Cummings
Scott: |
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Posted By: identify7
Its probably Black Sox Fan and his venture capitalists with their cardpricer scam; screwing up the whole hobby. |
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Posted By: Scott Mosley
Those snack area chit chats that Mike and others have organized have been the best part of the last show or two that I've attended. |
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Posted By: Kevin Cummings
An OJ or two just to use your house for an hour? You'd better be serving beer! |
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Posted By: Anonymous
nevermind...finally got the link to work. |
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Posted By: William Brumbach
I'm sure the show will find a new home (read, OH GOD I HOPE IT FINDS A NEW HOME!!!) just as it did when the beloved George Washingon motel closed it's doors and the Willow Grove show became the Fort Washington show. The last Willow Grove show I went to was in 1992 I believe and it was raining and musty and nasty. I had to park on the muddy grass at the bottom of the hill out front and when I was leaving my car darn near slid sideways on me. I hope they can find someplace as musty and nasty now, I miss it. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
At the old Willow Grove Motor Inn, or whatever it was called, the ceiling would leak when it rained and it wasn't unusual to find ants in your room. It was quite a place. I think it was eventually condemned, or should have been. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Barry.........You recall correctly, that was certainly the deteriorating |
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Posted By: William Brumbach
I believe that the old George Washington Motor Lodge in Willow Grove was torn down to make way for improving that PA Turnpike interchange. There was another George Washington Motor Lodge in Bensalem at the Rt. 1 turnpike interchange that was also closed/condemned and eventually torn down but nothing has been done with that site to date. |
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Posted By: tbob
Muddy roads? Hey you guys should live where I do and not have a card show of any kind within a 500 mile radius in any direction. It's hell living in a vintage card barren wasteland... |
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Posted By: pete ullman
i feel your pain bob...i moved to mn from the east...where lots of action is and now Chicago is close as it gets! |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I haven't attended a show in many years but I must agree with Ted that the Willow Grove show of the 80's was really something to look forward to. I would always come home with a briefcase full of vintage stuff. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
waves to Bob across the vast vintage wasteland that is the Midwest |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
William |
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Posted By: jay behrens
The very first card I went to was the old Thunderbird show put on by Mansco Perry in 1980. The next show I went to was Willow Grove in the Spring of 1982. Talk about a drool fest. I walked away from that show with my first Goudeys and caramel cards as well as some n162s along with a mitt full of t-cards. Got to see a lot rare issues other neat stuff. A big thanks goes out to Ron Oser to was kind enough to let a hick from MN that hung out at his store to help him at the show and camp out at his table. It was definately one of the most memberable shows I ever attended. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Does anyone remember Wayne Miller, who would set up at every show and have a seemingly endless supply of T206? |
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Posted By: Mark Macrae
Ted...We've talked much about this in the past, but the Willow Grove shows of the 1980's were as good or better than the National, in the true heyday of the hobby. There was an abundance of great material circulating, and a great selection of personalities from the Eastern US that attended the show. The post show dinners (Bookbinders) and 76ers games in winter were always a lot of fun. First time attendees to the December show would initially chuckle when they saw me wearing shorts. It was only 25 degrees outside, but once you got inside it was 80, like a sauna.. The GW lodge, itself, had "charm", sort of like a homeless shelter. Charm being defined as a leaky roof over your teacup-saucer shaped mattress. If you were lucky you'd get a room with heat that worked. For the March & December shows, mine never worked. For May & September I'd get the room where the heat wouldn't shut off... When the GW lodge served the continental breakfast it was good the first few years, until (Seinfeld fans can relate) Poppy started getting sloppy..... Across the grass at the convention center the "Friday Night ballpark supper" started out ok. By the mid 80's, the hot dogs resembled a St Patrick's day Parade (jiggly & green). I think the only guy that liked them was the overweight, African American maintenance man that was frequently seen (at rainy shows) pushing around 30 gallon plastic garbage cans trying to contain most of the rainwater gushing in from the dozens of leaks in the ceiling. He probably received them as part of his compensation package, poor thing...If you ever set up at Willow Grove, you'd remember the 'generous' room behind the table. Even Teddy Z, at 5 foot five and 130 pounds dripping wet had a hard time manuevering back there. God forbid, if Lou Avon or Kit Young were set up on either side of you, you better bring food for a few days and a colastomy bag, because you weren't going anywhere....Ron Oser always had a great display, but I felt sorry for his location, right next to the legendary restrooms...I'll spare the masses here, but suffice it to say that Oser's customers usually wouldn't hang around too long talking with him. For those of you who have been to an Oakland Raiders game in the last five years, let just say it was like the men's room at halftime......Barry, not sure what happened to Wayne Miller...Great guy to deal with though......It was a memorable time for anyone who attended, and Ted, you're right its very easy to talk about at length Thankfully many things change for the better. I'm sure Schmeirer will find an appropriate new location, hopefully with less 'charm' that the GW Lodge..... |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I know Wayne dropped out of the hobby even before the show left Willow Grove. I just think he got tired of it. And I do distinctly remember where Ron Oser's table was, in the far corner. There was that awful snack bar, terrible accomodations, but nobody would miss that show for the world. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I just had a conversation with Bob Schmierer and he assures us that the |
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Posted By: Mark Rios
Hope the tradition continues... |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Wayne Miller was the dealer I got most of my t206s from at that show. The nice ones (VG/Ex-ish) cost a buck each and the G+ cost me 50 cents. Man, think it took so long to complete a set back then, lol. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
I've only attended one Ft Washington show but I thought it was one of the best shows around. I only wish that we could have a quality show such as that four times a year in Southern California. |
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Posted By: Charlie O'Neal
Whoever mentioned about moving it to the King of Prussia...that would be super cool since I will live within 5 miles of it. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Mark |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Barry |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
I did eat at what might have been the last bastion of that chain in Houston Texas of all places in about 1993. |
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Posted By: leon
As for the Boston Sea Party that was the best seafood buffet I have ever had, and it was in Houston, several years before '93. I think it was $16.99 and had everything you can imagine on it. I know as I love to eat |
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Posted By: Scott Mosley
Ted, Barry and others... |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Maryland rings a bell, but I never did any mail order with him, we just dealt in person at the show. |
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Posted By: Bill Todd
Yes, Wayne was (is?) from Maryland, Columbia to be exact--halfway between Baltimore and Washington. He kept a few cards on consignment in the coin shop I worked in at the time. Sold me my first cards--a pretty T-204 of Gabby Street and a diamond-cut Johnson/Street T-201. I still have them. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Columbia Md- that's it. I remember it now. |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
Because Wayne Miller was a pretty good magician as well and I still have my signed "baseball" card of him which describes his skill. |
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Posted By: Scott Mosley
Bill and Barry, |
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Posted By: Jerry Spillman
I'm pretty sure Wayne's last show was the 1984 NSCC in Parsippany, NJ. When I last spoke to him and his wife I remember that he had decided to go into show business as magician. Never heard from or about him again. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I probably started going to Willow Grove in 1984 and he was around for a few years after that. Late 80's was probably his swan song. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Jerry Spillman |
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Posted By: leon
Like I said "it was several years before 1993"...I came to Dallas in 1987 and it was a year or two before that.....it was some great food though...I wish I would have been in the hobby back then. I was too busy chasing skirts and getting into mischief..... |
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Posted By: will
Would one of you please describe Wayne? |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Will |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I finally discovered my Philly Show rosters from 15 - 20 years ago. |
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Posted By: Bill Todd
Here's a picture of Wayne on his current Web site. His wife looks a lot different than I remember, but Wayne's about the same. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Yep- that's him alright. He looks a little older of course but about the same. Now that I think about it, he would hold stacks of T206 rather deftly- hard to explain, but I guess with kind of a magician's touch. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Thank's to Bill Todd for providing Wayne's email address, I just sent him a lengthy note to say hello and gave him a link to our site. Who knows, maybe he will respond. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I just got a very nice email from Wayne and he says hello to everyone and even asked me to post it. Of course, I will have to wait for my wife to get home and help me since I haven't a clue, but we'll post it on this thread this evening. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Barry: |
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Posted By: leon
Hey Barry, |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
LEON and BARRY |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I think about half my t206s came from Wayne. Nice to know he still remembers my name. Then again, there weren't many punk rockers collecting vintage cards in the 80s. The 1987 National in SF was the first one I set up at. I remember t206s costing about $50 NM at the start of the show and once word started getting around about Copeland's buyers, the prices jumped to $100 pretty fast.The highlights of that show for me were buying a complete set of Sports Kings in about Ex, a nice group of high number Bowman basketball including 2 Mikans and rifling Mike Jasperson's trunk with his father's wire photo collection and finding some Gehrig and Ruth photos he missed and talking him into selling them to me. |
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