Jim O'Rourke hit .250 at age 54 !!

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

SABR tells me that they have no age-related records...

but that they agree with my research and will note it in their next Records Committee newsletter.

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Posted By: Chad

That seems odd. It was common for Cuban players to play in both the Negro Leagues and the major Leagues. Off the top of my head, Luque and Armando Marsans both did a long time before Izzy Leon. (I believe Marsans is the earliest, but I don't have my references with me at work.) I wonder why Leon would get the credit?

--Chad

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Posted By: identify7

You know Chad: I have seen nothing that says that Leon played in the Negro Leagues before he played in the majors. The information which I cited says that he graduated to the Negro League following a brief period in MLB.

Edited to add:

But that status does not invalidate my previous statement "Jackie Robinson wasn't the first ex-Negro Leaguer in MLB, Izzy Leon was". Although as you point out - my statement may not be correct - there may have been several ex-Negro Leaguers in MLB prior to Robinson - perhaps all of whom predate Leon.

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Posted By: Chad

do you have an Izzy Leon card?

--Chad

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Posted By: Steve

FWIW Nick Altrock also played and batted in 5 different decades, same as Minoso

SD

edited to add: I mean in 5 different 10 yr blocks. I think

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Posted By: Mark

Minoso has batted (in prof baseball) in diff 7 decades.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0716/1581737.html

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Posted By: jay behrens

Altrock did play in 5 decades, but did not get a hit in 1930s.
Is he the oldest player to get a triple at age 47?

Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Altrock may have the record for oldest man with a triple. Sam Thompson hit a triple in 1906 at the age of 46 (with the Detroit Tigers). Dan Brothers also played in the majors at the age of 46 (NYG - 1904) but didn't collect a hit. Dan was known to be competitive well into his 50's in the minor leagues.

Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: identify7

Chad: I do not have an Izzy Leon card. I don't know that one exists. I haven't even seen a picture of Izzy Leon.

Also I have not found an indication that Marsans nor Luque were ever members of the Negro League.

If you can provide some help on this, I sure can use it.

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Posted By: Chad

Hey Gil. My source for their Negro League experience comes from Riley's book. They're listed as having played for one of the Cuban Stars teams that played in, I think, the Eastern Colored league, tho I may be confusing leagues. I wasn't online last night, but I'll definitely look it up tonight and then see if I can find a second source to verify it. I'll try to find out if Izzy has a card, too.

--Chad

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Posted By: Chad

He's in the 46-47 Felices (Caramelo Deportivo) set. So, add him to the want list!

--Chad

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Posted By: identify7

Well Chad, that is good news. I believe that Brian H. has a '14 CJ Marsans on eBay right now.

Edited to add: I guess since Marsan's MLB career was complete by 1919, he also joined the Negro League following his tour in the bigs. How about other players?