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Old 09-22-2005, 12:10 PM
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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Jorge,

Not that I need to respond to your silly post, but I'll humor you with some "facts" as you seem to be a big fan of fact vs. opinion:

FACT: You are correct that the amount I am being ripped off is not $30,000. It is currently $31,750. If/when that check I received clears I will only be scammed out of $14,407.62. Until that check clears, it's still $31,750. I thought saying $30,000 instead of $31,750 and $15,000 instead of $14,407.62 would be easier but since you are one for accuracy, from here on out I promise, I will only say that you guys are stealing $31,750 from me. When the check clears I will then be sure to say that you're now only stealing $14,407.62. Do you feel more comfortable with the correct numbers?

FACT: Regarding the auction house, if Sergio never pays then I will. I'm not going to stiff them just because I'm being screwed. I've just been unable to afford to pay it off since I hadn't planned on not being paid from you guys.

FACT: Who is on my team? I am. Period. I think what you are cleverly trying to hint at is the fact that one of the cards was not mine, as you already know. The Aguilitas Pop Lloyd card was a friend of mine's. It was included in the deal because Sergio was looking for the best examples of the best cards and this is the highest graded card of a Negro League HOFer. That card was factored at $13,500. I made $0 on the card. No commission. No fee. Nothing. It was strictly to get Sergio a card he wanted and to sell a card for a friend. I'm not sure what your point is in bringing that up, though. If you guys screw me, I will still be paying $13,500 to my friend, $5,000 of which I have already paid. Maybe you can clarify what your point is in asking me about it.

FACT: Your wag-the-dog diversionary tactics do not change the focus of this thread or this situation one bit. Attacking me only makes YOU look worse. You think you're being subtle but you're not. You can try to make me out to be the bad guy here, but when we were at the National together and you ran out of cash didn't I lend you money so you wouldn't be stuck with no cash? This is months after I was already supposed to have been paid. And now I'm suddenly some jerk? You can call me a sucker for doing business with you but you, Jorge, have no right to question my personal character whatsoever. And quit mentioning Leon in your posts. It's clear you've been e-mailing him regularly about this thread, but if and when Leon wants to post something, edit something, or delete something, he'll do it. Trying to influence him is probably a waste of time as he tends to be pretty objective and detached when wearing his moderator hat, which is how is should be.

If you have any other questions about the way I do business feel free to ask.

And if you want all of this to go away and never hear from me again, all you have to do is see to it that I am paid what I'm owed.

-Ryan

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