Continued post from: (Can this wagner be real?)

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Posted By: Duane

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1299404

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Posted By: Jon

Hate to tell you but both the Wagner and the Ruth ball are fakes. (The Ruth ball is a bad,bad, bad fake). Rest easy tonight now.

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Posted By: Duane

The ruth was authenticated twice.

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Posted By: Jon

I'm not trying to be mean but you want the opinion. I own 7 Ruth's right now, and have owned over 30 in my life - I feel your ball is fake. I'm not accusing you of anything - just my opinion.

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Posted By: zach

I agree..but that Wagner is not a reprint even from the 70's. It's a new reprint, I say this because it is a reprint of the uncut proof sheet that sold in 2002...I say this because of its blank back and it has the same exact creases as the proof. I dont know about right now but these reprint sheets used to alawys be on ebay and it was the same exact card you have.

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Posted By: Duane

The ball was said to be a 1920's to 1930's because of the stitching. I think the person who authenticated it is Lee Strickler or Strickland. Have you heard of him?

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Posted By: vetekbob

You gave it your best shot Duane You never know you just may come along a great find one day so dont let this get you down.

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Posted By: Duane

Oh well, thanks for your opinions. Maybe it was a late april's fool joke by my dad with the card.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

I feel bad for you. It must have cost a pretty penny to get Jacques Cousteau to photograph that Wagner for you.

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Posted By: Duane

I am a poor college student, but if your feel that bad you can send me some charity.

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Posted By: Julie

uncut strip of 5 (that's the one you're talking about isn't it?). Either Verkman or Wheat bought it at the Halper auction, and tried to turn a big profit on it...neat strip. The color on the Wagner background looks like some kid did it with a paint set, it's so unsubtle. As
for the font, or details of the picture (as David Cycleback pointed out)--who can tell?

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Posted By: Duane

It must be a reprint then because my dad has the card. The picture quality is not turning out good because my father is so technically illiterate he can't operate a digital camera. It's frustrating living two hours away from him. The ball was authenticated by a "professional" hmm... I am now concerned about his opinion because of one of your own opinions on it. His name is Lon Strickler. http://www.stricklerstars.com/ Does this guy seem legit or is he just trying to make a buck.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

When I was in college and low on money, I did what all poor college students did-- I moved on to a cheaper beer.

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Posted By: Duane

I would rather live on the streets than give up the guiness.

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Posted By: Shane Killian

The Honus looks to be cut from the proof strip reprint. I have a reprint of it here and it's the same creasing, etc.

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Posted By: dan mckee

This is a blatant fake cut off of a reprint of the strip Steve Verkman sold a few years back. The owner made reprints of the strip and sells them on ebay, the crease is exact. Dan.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Your Dad found this in a scrapbook he inherited 30 years ago, but that scrapbook contains a modern fake Wagner card? Why would your Dad pull such a hoax on you? Duane, have you been an evil child?

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Posted By: Julie

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Posted By: David Smith

I know that K Whitmore of Columbus lurks here and this might be him/her dicking around with us. I wouldn't waste any more time with this thread....

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Posted By: jay behrens

If true, not a bad place to to hone your tale telling skills and see how good the fakes are that you are creating.
This is a photoshopped card I created from a beat up version I have in my collection. Just think what a dedicated con artist could do.

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Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.