Mastro auction 2/14 - 2/24 ... question

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

I read somewhere (PSA website?) that the upcoming Mastro Collector's Classic aution in February would START on the internet for bidding on 2/14.

Normally they put up the web site for a preview for a few days BEFORE the bidding actually starts so that everyone has time to "shop"...

so does ANYONE know when the "catalog" will be up and running on the internet for us to review???

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Posted By: ockday

According to Ron Oser of Mastronet..it goes online Monday 2/14.
Of interest to Paul, there will be an OJ McPhee. Good luck!
Alan

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

I need some time to SHOP before it opens!!!

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Posted By: ockday

THE CATALOG SHOULD ARRIVE PRIOR TO 2/14

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

But I am out of town!

I need the internet catalog!

Hopefully they will get it up and running before Monday so that I can get organized and set up my budget!

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Hal,

There will be a 1924 Diaz Ruffing Rookie in the auction, which should be right up your alley.

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Posted By: ockday

some nice SGC graded OJ's..like McPhee SGC 50 and Hoy SGC 60...lots of Cracker Jacks , T205's T206's, some caramels etc.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

What the heck is a Diaz?

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Its the Thomas Guitterez cuban card set issued in 1924

http://www.oldcardboard.com/foreign/cuba/gutierrez/gutierrez.asp?cardsetID=1018

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Posted By: Julie

I was chewing them out last auction for charging $75 for catalogues to regular auctions--it's certainly their right (if a little tackey). I mistakenly thought you had to have bid in one of the last 7 to BID without paying $75...

Oh well, since bidding is all on the internet, I don't mind looking there.

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Diaz is a 1924 Cuban Tobacco Set. The set is from the same company as the Tomas Gutierrez cards that John mentioned, but it is a distinctive set, featuring only major leaguers. The Diaz set is extremely rare, and contains the rookie card of Red Ruffing. The one in the Mastro Auction is from my collection, and it is the only one that I have ever seen. Attached is a lousy scan of the card. I'm sure the scan in the Mastro catalogue will be much clearer.

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Posted By: Sean Coe

Its online now.

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Here is another scan of a Diaz (Tomas Gutierrez) card, although not a HOF "rookie", it is in a little nicer shape. Extremely tough in any condition, Lipset talks briefly about them in his encyclopedia, not many were known then however. Crazy thing about this set is that the "book value" has remained largely unchanged for nearly 2 decades.
-Rhett

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

And the reason you consigned it to Mastro instead of just offering it directly to me was what again, Andy??

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Posted By: leon

He did it so I could extort you on it. If I don't run you up you can leave one little ole N167 HOF for me in coming auctions? .....I really need Andy's card all of these cards will probably surpass my puny budget anyway.....later.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Come on, Leon.

I didn't run you up on the "Two of Diamonds" !!!

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Hal,

The reason that I consigned it rather than offering it to you is that I really have no idea of the value. These cards are extremely rare, and the price guides are not accurate. Rather than arbitrarily coming up with a number, I thought the most fair thing to do would be to let the market dictate the value.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

fair, schmair

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Posted By: leon

that was funny......I actually LOL.....thanks man

ps....it was the response about the 2 playing card that I laughed at....a post got stuck in between.....fair shmair wasn't that funny

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

Here's another one. The only one that I've ever actually seen in person. An uncommon card, but also a low demand set. I won this in a Ron Oser auction. There were only 2 bidders.

There are Diaz cards of Johnson, Alexander, Pennock, Rixey, Grimes and Hoyt. Anybody got one?

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Okay, okay:



-Ryan

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Has to be available in the USA to be a rookie card, IMHO. Nice items though.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Ryan plays the trump card...

and a hush falls over the stunned crowd!

Wow. Great card.

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Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Who would want a card of that bum?

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

John:

Was that you who bought the really nice version of this N167 Corcoran in the Robert Edwards auction last year...

or are you still in the market for the current one in Mastro?

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Posted By: Julie

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

Anybody besides me think that Corcoran is a fake?

Mr. Murcerfan would probably disagree, right after he got over the shock of that statement.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

No the one in Robert Edwards went for 11k and was bought by someone on the board.

Id rather have that Corcoran from the set TIK has that you should buy Hal! you know which one

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

John:

TIK sent me real-sized color copies of the "cabinet/proofs" from that set...

and many of them are so faded that they are not too pleasing.

You will need to find someone else to partner up with on that set!

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Posted By: Jay Miller

How about the mono and the lot of 13 different year Zeenuts with tabs?

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Well then yes i will go for this one Hal,seeing as a psa6 of this card went for 11k,as long as a fair one goes for around half that then ill win it and then try to trade it to TIK for the cabinet

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Posted By: PASJD

I hope we are not heading for another "before" and "after" as with the Keeler cabinet in Mastro's last auction. I hope all that is "clearer" is the scan, or if work is done, it is disclosed.

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Posted By: Homerunfaker

Leon wrote:
...."If I don't run you up you can leave one little ole N167 HOF for me in coming auctions?"

whose running this joint anyways?

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

I don't have that Hoy card...

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Posted By: marty

I got my catalogue in the mail today.

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Posted By: Jim Clarke

After reading all these wonderful threads...I must come out of the closet and say I'm the lucky one that overpaid on the N167 Corcoran PSA 6 Old Judge card from REA. I would be interested in partnering up on a few lots.. Have to figure out what I need and want. JC

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Posted By: Paul

Wow, I've become famous through my incessant whining. Thank you very much for the tip about the McPhee. I wasn't aware of it.

Hal, you really don't want that Ruffing. It's from Cuba. For that reason, it probably qualifies as contraband, and the government will confiscate it from you. Besides, I want it.

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Posted By: justcallmedummy

Your Corcoran may not have been all that overpriced...in a few short years it could look like a bargain...I wish I could have afforded it.
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it must be on your short list of favorite cards?

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Posted By: PASJD

Does the Mastro catalog mention anything about the outside conservator or, as to any lots, disclose any "cleaning," "stablization," or other work that was done?

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Posted By: Paul

This auction is my want list. Aside from the McPhee, there's a poor condition N172 Delahanty, Andy's Red Ruffing, an E94 Young, a Leaf Paige. Geez. I could spend a full year's budget on this one auction, buying only things I've specifically asked for on this board.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Seriously:

I will stay away from the Paige and other cards...

if you stay away from the Ruffing.

(Sorry Andy!)

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Posted By: Andy Baran

1.) Many of the cards that you guys are mentioning are mine, so bid high! No collusion allowed.

2.) The scan of the Ruffing is lousy because my scanner sucked. It is now broken. Mastro took a much better scan. The card is in poor condition. I can't imagine that anyone is thinking it was restored. Look at it again.

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Posted By: PASJD

I have now seen the scan of the Ruffing and am glad to see it is indeed the same card you consigned in the same condition. I certainly did not intend to suggest otherwise, was just expressing hope prior to having seen the Mastro scan (I did not know it was already available online). I also hope the same is true for all the other lots in the auction, or that where any work has been done it is disclosed.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

If that Old Judge is poor, most of mine are unspeakable...

Unless you don't believe what it says about NOT trimmed...

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Julie,

There are 2 Old Judge Delahanty's in the auction.

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Posted By: Paul

Hal, the Mastro price for Andy's Ruffing is too rich for my blood. It's all yours, if you can fight off the other folks bidding on it. I will be very happy with my 1925 Exhibit Ruffing.

Andy, what a fool I am. I can't remember what you offered that card to me for a year ago, but it was sure less than what you will get now. Shame on you for not offering it to me again before consigning it to someone who will actually get you every penny possible for the card.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

If only Andy were a socialist or a communist.

This "capitalism" is going to his head.

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Posted By: nquinn

How about the mono and the lot of 13 different year Zeenuts with tabs?

Where did you hear about these?

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Posted By: Mark Tylicki

http://www.rustywilly.com/largecards/LyonsTed.htm