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Julie Vognar(I just thought how I kept typing my name and e-mail, like one of those ads on TV, where the guy keeps repeating the phone number. That's why the half a dirty joke. )
I think O'Neill's and Caruthers' records speak for themselves. I only want Hoy if it turns out he himself really started the hand signals--which are invaluable in a modern ballgame. I'm spoken to a guy who talked to his grandson, who says yes, Dummy H. did do it--but I know others have the credit, etc. and there are other stories. I think Hoy was an excellent player, but not quite HOF stuff, unless the hand signals are his.
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