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Old 06-28-2003, 12:22 PM
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I would like to add a few comments to my earlier post. My knee-jerk reaction to choose not to contribute to this board any longer was the result of Elliot’s discourteous treatment of the post by Robert Dahl. I realize Elliot takes his responsibilities seriously, but in my opinion he stepped over the line, accusing me of “schilling”. I found it to be offensive and also abusive. All he had to do was send Mr. Dahl an email, readily available via EBay.
Next, to all of those who weighed in positively (including Mr. Dahl), thank you for the kind words. I too have received a score of emails mostly asking what the heck is going on. To those of you who offered intercession, thank you as well. For those of you who felt otherwise, I have attempted to contact each of you to resolve/explain any issues, excepting Cy whose post contains some important inaccuracies and he knows it.
Lastly, the reason for all of this, Mr. Spillman. There is no fraud. You unilaterally returned those cabinets without any communication, throwing them into a box with no protection resulting in significant damage to both. All of this because they did not meet your approval? The reason I charged you (about a hundred bucks) was for EBay fees, shipping and the damage to the cabinets. At that time, nearly a year ago, I was including verbiage in my auctions to the effect of no refunds. Which brings to mind another oddity about this entire debacle; why wait so long to whine, wheedle, cry and accuse me? Anyway, I removed the no refund verbiage long ago because anyone who was dissatisfied was provided a refund, including you.
Regarding my “calling an associate” with which I have transacted hundreds of deals to speak up for me, read your own earlier post there Spanky, you did the same.
You also remind us in every post how long you have been in the business blah blah blah. Who cares? It is irrelevant. In fact, we all can thank the internet that carneys like you are no longer needed; sitting smugly in your booths chewing on fat green cigars with a take it or leave it attitude! The internet has leveled the playing field allowing small collectors the same access! No more bricks and mortar needed, only mouse clicks. And in case you haven’t noticed, the resultant shakeout has left people like you Slow, Old and Obsolete. Now, a few very large dealers, auction houses and the internet are primary venues for our hobby. I digress.
In conclusion, Mr. Spillman is accusing me of fraud. There is no fraud. The amount refunded was correct. Mr. Spillman would be well served to speak to his attorney about the legal definition of fraud. I have spoken to mine. Mr. Spillman should also ask his attorney about the legal definition of slander, libel and defamation. Again, I have spoken to mine. It is one thing to make unequivocal accusations privately, but quite another to repeatedly air them in a public arena causing damage to reputation and future loss of commerce and opportunity.
In conclusion, I am done with this subject. It has taken enough of my time. I feel I have explained myself quite completely. If anyone still cares at this point, feel free to email me as I have said all along.

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