Is the Magie real?

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Posted By: Nick

The card looks good to me...
Opinions are apreciated.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2702717091&category=31719

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Posted By: Charlie

It looks real...What I don't understand is the other card he is selling, an E91 Plank I believe, has a picture of the back of the card as well as the front. The Magie which is worth a lot more... has no back picture...Could be an oversight but seems the card would get much more attention with a scan of the back.

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Posted By: TBob

no matter what the grade, he would hit his reserve...

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Posted By: warshawlaw

of course it is "real"; somone had to scan something. The issue is whether it is authentic.

Sorry, but this grammatical issue is becoming a real pet peeve of mine because I am trying to teach my 4 y.o. daughter the difference between
"real" and authentic or alive (she tells me that her toy cat is not "real" when she means it is not a live cat like her pet).

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Posted By: Hankron

Perhaps I'm missing something but 'Is it a real (as opposed to fake) T206 Magie?' sounds like a fine statement. I suppose it's redundant, but so is 'authentic T206 Magie.' Probably the best statement would be, 'Is it a T206 Magie, or is it a fake?'

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Posted By: leon

Is the cat "authentic"? Has it been slabbed best regards

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Posted By: Hankron

Adam, I'm assuming you're a property lawyer. You have to understand that some eBay sellers use the terms 'real' and 'authentic' in the existential sense: i.e 'But what is real?,' 'Who amongst us is truely authentic?' and 'In this world behond the human's comprehension, all I can truely know is that there are No Returns, No Refunds and payment must be in cash.'

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Posted By: Hankron

Here's my opinion on this Magie card.

A card, especially one like this, cannot be authenticated by an online image. The only way propor judgement can be made on the card is by in person examination-- meaning, after the winner has paid, physically received and inspected the card. This means that the bidder in an online auction is partially dependant on the honesty and competance of the seller. The selling of a 'naked' T206 Magie or T206 Honus Wagner is as much about the 'authenticity' of the seller as it is about the card description and images. The question the bidder should ask is, 'What do I know about this seller's honesty and competency?' If you have significant questions or lack of knowledge about the seller, perhaps you should wait until another day to bid on a card like this. Pesonally, I can count on the fingers on my hand the number of people I would blindly buy an au natural Magie or Wagner from.

Anyone who knows me know that I have a distate for trading card graders. However, this auction is begging for a reputable third party grader--, if not as a final decission on authenticity, as as a reputable third part opinion to facilitate a safe sale. The grading would serve both the seller and the buyer.

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Posted By: Nick

a thread would be dedicated to my grammatical shortcomings. The word "real" is defined as follows:

REAL: ADJ-Genuine; not imaginary.

I chose to use it in a substitute for the word "Genuine" as the conversation was informal.

I would however like to say that my grammatical abilities are not what they should be. I am good at determining the out come of almost any sporting event and I have a solid business finance skills...

My favorite is when my son says that food is 'hot' when he should say spicy.

Nick
Product of UNLV

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Posted By: Ben

Personally, I prefer 'itching' my mosquito bits instead of 'scratching' them

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Posted By: runscott

...or "genuiniality"

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Posted By: Todd (nolemmings)

my favorite malapropism (by far) is "plutonic". I suppose people claiming to have a plutonic relationship really could treat each other as igneous rocks or worship the god of the underworld together, but I suspect most of them meant to say "platonic".
Sorry to stay off topic.
Todd

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Posted By: warshawlaw

which brings up an ad claim I like: Hot 'n' spicy. Either redundant or inaccurate. Of course, my professional colleagues insist on "null and void" when if something is void, it is null already. Not to mention the always silly "including but not limited to" which usually follows a statement like "all documents, including but not limited to . . ."

My kid also does the itch-scratch thing--she says she needs to "itch" a mosquito bite--must be par for the course with kids when they first learn to speak.

Another one I like to rail on: got/have. I got rhythm only if I have a poor education.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

A: very carefully.

Reminds me of the Carls' Jr. commercial where they are trying to find the "nuggets" on a chicken. CJ is a burger chain out here in the west.

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Posted By: Hankron

Two of the most commonly misused terms in the baseball memorabilia.

'Wirephoto': Nearly all collectors, advanced dealers and major auction houses (from MastroNet to Sotheby's) don't know what is a wirephoto, and regularly misuse the term.

'Engraving': Unless you know what an engraving really is, don't use it in a baseball context as you are probably using it incorrectly. For example, there isn't a baseball card on this earth that is an engraving. And there's no such thing as a 'Harper's Engraving.' One of the biggest abusers of the term is MastroNet-- which perpetuates the situation as other dealers and auction houses emulate them.