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Posted By: Dr.Koos

...see if you can follow this. At one time I actually was inclined to BELIEVE the unsubstantiated rumours about the card being "restored". Why? Because EVERYONE on the Vintage Board and on this Board said so. Yes..being a rank amateur at collecting, I blindly accepted the rumours. Not so anymore. Within the past month, I've studied this card from every conceivable angle and in my estimation, the card is CLEAN..as well as being PROFESSIONALLY GRADED by a VALID GRADING SERVICE, like it or not David. I bought the card already slabbed by Pro, believed in the card's validity enough to fork over $12,500 for it, my belief was shaken by all the malcontents with a massive beef with Pro and E-net, and now, after intensive scrutiny, once again believe the card to be unaltered. Simple as that. Like ANY OTHER GRADED CARD, it's the seller's right to auction it as a final sale. The card IS described PERFECTLY. That is what I see. A beautiful Mantle card that looks totally unaltered, professionally graded by Pro. I have NEVER seen a law that prohibits the sale of Pro-graded cards. Have you? Have you examined the MM? Do you know what was done to it? Obviously, Bill Mastro, probably the foremost dealer in the world, didn't state in HIS auction of the card before slabbing exactly what was done/altered (and as if no auctioneer, regardless of his impeccable reputation ever made a MISTAKE in offering something that was described as genuine but was later found out to be spurious). THIS is what you base your tireless allegations on. That if it's Pro slabbed, it's NG. I beg to differ with you. FULL disclosure on the card's condition and residence inside a Pro holder HAS been made. "AS IS" has been stated, just as the thousands of cards that are auctioned that are in PSA holders (and because a card is in a PSA holder, does it mean that it's positively unaltered?). Obviously, you seek to block the sale of this card because you hate PRO and hate me. It's plain as day. I didn't buy the card from Mastronet, I bought it slabbed! A professionally graded card. Deal with it. Just as I dealt for two+ years with thinking that the card was altered because everybody says so, even though NONE OF YOU HAVE SUBJECTED THE CARD TO EXAMINATION. Can't deal with the fact that you can't bid and retract, criminally tampering with a valid National Mail Auction? Too bad! I've come full circle since the E90-1 Jax episode, a card that was NEVER in a Mastro auction that everyone had the SAME PROBLEM WITH. THAT'S the plain and simple truth about it. It's not just the MM. It's ANY Pro card I auction that I paid good money for and is my right to sell AS BOUGHT. After the JAX, you malcontents have made me realize that if you have a problem with the JAX as well, enough so to criminally tamper with it, there's not a damn thing wrong with that MM besides your problem with Pro, that you're too damned chicken-S**T to take up with Moser in person because of your fear of him! And what's the reason...."it's too good a card to be graded by Pro so it must be NG". There's a good scientific reason! This is like the 17th century. Like the scientific evaluation of identifying a witch by use of a witche's prick! You point a sharp object into the witch and if it leaves a mark, they're guilty! If it doesn't, they're protected by the devil. No laws, no rules on Ebay prohibit the sale of GRADED CARDS. PSA, SGC, BGS, OR Pro. I eagerly await their inquiry on my offering a professionally graded card. This is HARRASSMENT. A clear cut case of it and I will not hesitate at this point to avail myself of all means possible for legal recompensation from you.