Categorical Ebay Issues to explore (LONG)

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Posted By: Brian Hodes

Ebay has apparently just created some new listing options that could complicate listing and viewing vintage items. To wit the "Rookies" designation under Baseball Cards now is divided chronologically and includes a "Pre 1950" grouping (sub-divided as both "graded" and "ungraded," of course).
Generally, I just zip through all of the "Pre-1950" grouping (really it should be pre-1948 or pre-WWII, because that's where the real dividing line is with cards). I look at both the graded and ungraded --although I unfortunately have been finding myself focusing more and more on the graded cards. Now with this new "pre 1950" category under "Rookies" I may have to go thorugh that category as well. It seems to me that most of us vintage collectors (i.e. pre-WWII/pre-Topps and Bowman) have some ideas about Rookies but are not really Rookie card collectors (we are more interested in particular sets (Old Judges, T206s, 33 Goudeys etc.) or just having ANY vintage card of some player (ANY Billy Hamilton or Jesse Burkett will do if we can even find one).
Now, if I want to buy or sell T-cards or Old Judges or whatever, is it really worth browing for them in (or listing them as) "Rookies: pre-1950" as well as the good old "Singles: Pre-1950 group ? What does everyone who has read this far -- and not gotten too confused -- think ??

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Posted By: Elliot

In the rookie section, I only found a pre 1980 and post 1980 section. Is this changing? In the pre 1980 section there was only 43 listings, of which only one would be of interest to people on this board (a t206 Speaker) which was also listed in pre 1950 singles. Given the small numbers, I don't think there is a problem. I don't think people who list cards that we are interested in, will list them in a pre 1980 category solely.

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Posted By: David

Ebay has often made some odd catagory decisions, at least in my eyes. I didn't think much of the 'graded' verus 'non-graded,' but that's not a big deal because you can view them together. I agree that the Pre-1950 rookie designation might be inconvenient, and I also don't think too much about 'rookie card' in the Pre-WWII area. But in eBay's defense, they did consolodate the baseball autograph section to something I like (from Other, AL & NL to MLB).

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Posted By: Brian C Daniels

They still need to find a way to not allow posting of "reprints". And some guy argued," but why?" "They are cards too!"

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Posted By: runscott

I think they should have a reprint category with separate sub-categories for various sports (no years). Any card described as follows would be required to go in this category: reprint,copy,copy?,"is it real - you decide?",etc. Basically, if there is a seller-admitted question of authenticity, it goes in the reprint category.

I would also like to see ebay give one warning for such cards being put in the pre-1950 category, two strikes and they're out.

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Posted By: David

I agree to a degree (a rhyme!) with the removing of reprints from the Pre-War cards area, and also with the setting up with reprints categories. However, I think most of us would grow to strongly dislike absolute rules if they were actually enforced. For example, I recently put a cut autograph of a T206 player in the Pre-War cards section. Also, I have put a Pre-War card coupled with the players signature in the Pre-War card area.

My opinion is that eBay should attempt to enforce copyright laws. There is no way that some Joe with a computer printer has the right to reprint Cobb's image for profit.

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Posted By: runscott

that I follow. sort of joking.