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Even his peers don\'t like the guy and he didn\'t get the votes.  <b>He\'s a HOF quality pitcher by the numbers, though...</b><br />\r\n<br />\r\nDavid Cone keeps missing these lists and discussions, though...probably room for him in a HOF discussion.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Yup, and that\'s all that should matter, though we know it doesn\'t in his case.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2548051" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2548051 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2548051_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">mainemule</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=624249">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=624249" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to mainemule</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=624249" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by mainemule</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2548051 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2548051 -' + '->';
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My question is where is Keith Hernandez? The best defensive player at every other position is in, so why not Keith? i think with Gil Hodges and Buck O’Neill in, Keith will get in eventually. The playing career and broadcasting career in total is a HOF career. He is also getting hurt by the fact the 1980 date was used as the cut off date for contemporary and classic eras. Its directly in the middle of his playing career</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I don\'t really get the Mattingly love and the lack of regard for Hernandez at this point.    Hernandez has higher OPS plus, Jaws, War and was likely the best fielding first basemen of all time.   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Had it been known that metrics like War would have been important it certainly possible that Garvey would have improved on those metrics when he played.   The guy was a super clutch player with impressive counting stats for the time he played.  He has a slightly higher OPS than Mantle in the post season.   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People are so in love with metrics that it feels like such an important aspect as this is overlooked far too often.  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Had it been known that metrics like War would have been important it certainly possible that Garvey would have improved on those metrics when he played.   The guy was a super clutch player with impressive counting stats for the time he played.  He has a slightly higher OPS than Mantle in the post season.   He was a dominant player in his era.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>No question, at the time Garvey was considered an elite player.  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I think his sourpuss behavior, in part, kept him from getting more votes on the writers ballot. Also, when he was on the ballot, the ballot was pretty stacked which worked against him. And he was very pedestrian defensively speaking.....but offensively speaking, he was a monster as a 2nd baseman....especially in the HR and RBI dept.....2461 hits, 377 HRs, 1518 RBIs, 1320 runs, 560 doubles, 290 career BA, 855 OPS....just really great offensive stats for a 2nd baseman. I just don\'t know if he will get in....You need 12 of the 16 votes and I don\'t know if he will get there....not if the votes will get split....<br />\n<br />\nIt\'s a very strange group to be honest...<br />\n<br />\nTwo of the biggest PED poster boys in Clemens and Bonds...and Sheffield, who also has PED connections....<br />\n<br />\nTwo truly beloved players in Mattingly and a Murphy...but players who have always fallen a bit short because of their short peaks....<br />\n<br />\nThen two players who really fall in the hall of very good, in Delgado and Fernando...What about Whitaker, Schilling, Lofton, Hernandez instead of these two? Just odd selections. 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He got hit by 2 sides on that one, though he probably got hit on 2 sides by the BBWAA vote pissing off reporters, too.  It\'s a bit rare to see a guy so publicly dragged by his ex-teammates and peers without worrying about pissing off the rest of the boy\'s club...</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nI\'ve stated before his post career behavior has been at times repugnant. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut I know first hand he was a devoted supporter of our troops (visited my brother in law and his unit in Baghdad when our military took over Sadaam\'s palace during 2nd Gulf War) and was a Clemente Award winner during his career.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nRidiculous that he wasn\'t selected during early eligibility on the BBWAA ballot as his credentials 100% make him worthy. 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I got to see him play in ATL several times in the late 70s-80s. Even though I am a lefty and my forte was pitching rather than hitting, I perfected the little bat waggle he did at the plate. He didn&#8217;t smoke, cuss, drink or chew tobacco. An absolutely awesome role model for kids. <br />\n<br />\nAs an adult, I got to meet and interact with him twice in the last 20 years at functions. And he absolutely validated my childhood adoration of him. He signed autos for everyone, took pics with everyone, and regaled us with stories and answered all of our questions (except he never would say which pitchers he liked to face because he didn&#8217;t want to come across as badmouthing them).<br />\n<br />\nAs a player he was one of the top players in the decade of the 80s. But when his career statistics are compared to the current HOFers and to those who are currently on the outside looking in, his peak was short, and his falloff at the end was steep and fast (he certainly would have benefitted from even light PEDs to help injury recovery to prolong his career by a couple of years).<br />\n<br />\nHe is absolutely a HOFer in my eyes, but I can understand why he is unlikely to get in based on the numbers. Based solely on the numbers he should rank somewhere between 4th and 7th on this ballot. But if the voters are going to discount the on field performances of the PED folks on the ballot because of PEDs, then they should in theory credit Murph for his off-field contributions to the image of the league, and he was definitely on the of the faces of the league for much of the 80s.<br />\n<br />\nAgain, based on the numbers, I don&#8217;t see him getting in. But if he does, this 1970s-1980s kid will be at Cooperatown wearing a #3 Braves jersey watching his induction speech and reliving my childhood all over again. If he doesn&#8217;t get the votes, he will always be a Hall of Famer to me. 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They were absolutely wonderful role models and have continued on this path as time has moved on.  <br />\n<br />\nFrom a personal standpoint, I wouldn\'t be as "offended" to see Dale or Don inducted as I would some other almost-deserving candidates, but they unfortunately fall short.  I think Mattingly stands a better overall chance of getting in vs. Murphy.  He\'s a lifer and still in the game.  <br />\n<br />\nI really think that Dwight Evans is more deserving than the other two.  He was more consistent over his entire career.  He was not a "loud" player, constantly overshadowed by teammates.  I think that this is why he is so often overlooked; almost a footnote.  <br />\n<br />\nTo echo others on here, where on earth is Whitaker (and Evans) on this ballot?  It\'s rather pathetic that the two most deserving candidates didn\'t make the list.  Are they to be relegated to some other kind of list?  I don\'t understand.  <br />\n<br />\nAt least Bobby Grich wasn\'t mentioned that I could see.  Tell me something:  before all this talk of his possible induction, when was the last time you even thought of Bobby Grich or heard his name?  It was mentioned earlier in this thread that, had things like WAR been important in his era, Steve Garvey would have obviously adjusted his type of play to reflect that.  Is Grich perhaps not the opposite of this?  His numbers look great by modern metrics, but I have no recollection of anybody extolling his virtues when he was active.   Maybe he received more regional praise than national and I simply missed out due to location, or that his best seasons were already behind him before I came along.  My question is this:  if a player\'s numbers suddenly look phenomenal using modern metrics, should that really even matter?  If he was so incredible, why was he so forgettable for the past 40 years?  Perhaps one could postulate that Grich\'s numbers, reflective of stats that weren\'t even taken into consideration when he played, make him appear ahead of his time, but is that not almost meaningless?  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Tell me something:  before all this talk of his possible induction, when was the last time you even thought of Bobby Grich or heard his name?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Bobby Grich and Rick Reuschel are the "What, really?" of WAR stats...\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;&#8254;<br />\r\n&#9642; Cubs 1800s-present HOF/stars/notables &#9642; Cubs oversized type examples &#9642; Cubs autographed cards &#9642;\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2550634" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2550634 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2550634_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">BioCRN</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=802041">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=802041" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to BioCRN</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=802041" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by BioCRN</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2550634 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2550634 -' + '->';
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Maybe he received more regional praise than national and I simply missed out due to location, or that his best seasons were already behind him before I came along.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>6 all-star appearances, 4 gold gloves and he even won a silver slugger despite the award not starting until he was a 10 year veteran. I suspect if he had played for a big market team, or even just stayed in Baltimore for his whole career, he\'d have a lot bigger impact on people\'s psyches. Though WAR doesn\'t love Al Oliver I always thought that if he had been a career Pirate, with an additional WS he would\'ve had a much better chance at getting elected. 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I suspect if he had played for a big market team, or even just stayed in Baltimore for his whole career, he\'d have a lot bigger impact on people\'s psyches. Though WAR doesn\'t love Al Oliver I always thought that if he had been a career Pirate, with an additional WS he would\'ve had a much better chance at getting elected. (and he\'s still better than Harold freakin\' Baines, but then again so is EVERYONE being discussed.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Certainly.  And I wasn\'t trying to belittle Grich; it just felt that all this talk of him and Cooperstown came out of nowhere and due to all the (fairly) newfound love for WAR.  Insofar as people wanting to see a player inducted, Evans has always had his small camp which has gained some footing at times; it seems to me that Whitaker\'s boosters are perhaps more recent in being louder in their hopes.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNot for the sake of any argument whatsoever, but only because I am interested in seeing how Grich compares to Whitaker and Evans with the career highlights you mentioned:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAll Star Appearances:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 6<br />\r\nWhitaker 5<br />\r\nEvans 3<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGold Gloves:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 4<br />\r\nWhitaker 3<br />\r\nEvans 8<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSilver Slugger:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 1<br />\r\nWhitaker 4<br />\r\nEvans 2<br />\r\n<br />\r\nKeeping in mind that Evans also had many seasons under his belt before the Silver Slugger award came about.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nWe can take Evans out of the discussion completely if we\'d rather just deal with second basemen.  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And I wasn\'t trying to belittle Grich; it just felt that all this talk of him and Cooperstown came out of nowhere and due to all the (fairly) newfound love for WAR.  Insofar as people wanting to see a player inducted, Evans has always had his small camp which has gained some footing at times; it seems to me that Whitaker\'s boosters are perhaps more recent in being louder in their hopes.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNot for the sake of any argument whatsoever, but only because I am interested in seeing how Grich compares to Whitaker and Evans with the career highlights you mentioned:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAll Star Appearances:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 6<br />\r\nWhitaker 5<br />\r\nEvans 3<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGold Gloves:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 4<br />\r\nWhitaker 3<br />\r\nEvans 8<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSilver Slugger:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 1<br />\r\nWhitaker 4<br />\r\nEvans 2<br />\r\n<br />\r\nKeeping in mind that Evans also had many seasons under his belt before the Silver Slugger award came about.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nWe can take Evans out of the discussion completely if we\'d rather just deal with second basemen.  However you want to do it, everyone is all over the place!  The All Star aspect is just a popularity contest, so does it really matter as much as the awards?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nI mean, I\'ve got no problem with Evans or Whitaker and I\'d rank both above Grich, if I were to put any of them in the HOF.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				*<br />\n*<br />\nWAR Hates Dante Bichette!<br />\n*<br />\n*<br />\nSo what is it good for? <img src="forum/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /><br />\n*\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2550864" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2550864 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2550864_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">D. 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And I wasn\'t trying to belittle Grich; it just felt that all this talk of him and Cooperstown came out of nowhere and due to all the (fairly) newfound love for WAR.  Insofar as people wanting to see a player inducted, Evans has always had his small camp which has gained some footing at times; it seems to me that Whitaker\'s boosters are perhaps more recent in being louder in their hopes.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNot for the sake of any argument whatsoever, but only because I am interested in seeing how Grich compares to Whitaker and Evans with the career highlights you mentioned:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAll Star Appearances:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 6<br />\r\nWhitaker 5<br />\r\nEvans 3<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGold Gloves:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 4<br />\r\nWhitaker 3<br />\r\nEvans 8<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSilver Slugger:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGrich 1<br />\r\nWhitaker 4<br />\r\nEvans 2<br />\r\n<br />\r\nKeeping in mind that Evans also had many seasons under his belt before the Silver Slugger award came about.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nWe can take Evans out of the discussion completely if we\'d rather just deal with second basemen.  However you want to do it, everyone is all over the place!  The All Star aspect is just a popularity contest, so does it really matter as much as the awards?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I am all about Dewey. 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Tell me something:  before all this talk of his possible induction, when was the last time you even thought of Bobby Grich or heard his name?  It was mentioned earlier in this thread that, had things like WAR been important in his era, Steve Garvey would have obviously adjusted his type of play to reflect that.  Is Grich perhaps not the opposite of this?  His numbers look great by modern metrics, but I have no recollection of anybody extolling his virtues when he was active.   Maybe he received more regional praise than national and I simply missed out due to location, or that his best seasons were already behind him before I came along.  My question is this:  if a player\'s numbers suddenly look phenomenal using modern metrics, should that really even matter?  If he was so incredible, why was he so forgettable for the past 40 years?  Perhaps one could postulate that Grich\'s numbers, reflective of stats that weren\'t even taken into consideration when he played, make him appear ahead of his time, but is that not almost meaningless?  I\'m assuredly showing some of my ignorance by asking these questions, so perhaps some people may be able to help educate me on this.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nI just read a quote from Don Baylor, who was a very smart baseball man, who won the MVP in 1979 based almost entirely on traditional stats. He thought his teammate Grich should have been considered for the award over him. 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Bergin</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2550663#post2550663" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I just read a quote from Don Baylor, who was a very smart baseball man, who won the MVP in 1979 based almost entirely on traditional stats. He thought his teammate Grich should have been considered for the award over him. Now in full hindsight, Brett or Fred Lynn probably should have won the award, but Baylor obviously saw something in Grich with his own eye test, that traditional statistics did not.<br />\n<br />\nI also maintain baseball people back then weren\'t as ignorant about player value as we thought they were...even if they didn\'t have a handy statistic to pin it on.<br />\n<br />\nI think the general public has become more informed of player value through statistics like WAR and defensive metrics, but inside baseball people always knew players like Mark Belanger, Brian Downing, Bobby Grich and other players like them, were very valuable to have on your team, even if the back of their baseball card didn\'t make them seem like a superstar.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Great points, and well taken.  <br />\n<br />\nWhen you consider players who may not have seemed like great stars, yet spent most/all of their careers with the same team, it\'s always cause to wonder why and look more deeply into it if the answer may not be readily apparent.  You picked such a good example in Belanger.  Then, I start thinking of Frankie Crosetti and wondering about him.  A pretty decent player, but always among absolute greats.  Clearly, he had a wonderful baseball IQ which served him for many decades to come.  That must be a big part of his "why".  My old friend Mel Harder isn\'t someone who you have to wonder about the reasons why.  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This can certainly impact who is selected- think Baines selection.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Not yet, that will be announced soon though.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFor the 2024 committew that elected Dick Allen and Dave Parker, the members were Paul Molitor, Eddie Murray, Tony Pérez, Lee Smith, Ozzie Smith and Joe Torre; major league executives Sandy Alderson, Terry McGuirk, Dayton Moore, Arte Moreno and Brian Sabean; and veteran media members/historians Bob Elliott, Leslie Heaphy, Steve Hirdt, Dick Kaegel and Larry Lester. 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pd[2548015] = '<!-' + '- post #2548015 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2548015" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2548015" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2548015&amp;postcount=39" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2548015" name="39"><strong>39</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2548015"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-03-2025, 02:46 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=43"><img src="image.php?u=43&amp;dateline=1695831996"   alt="Peter_Spaeth\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2548015">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=43">Peter_Spaeth</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Peter_Spaeth is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2548015", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nPeter Spaeth\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 34,222\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2548015">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2548015">\r\n			\r\n			I find these committees very confusing.  I thought the last time Bonds and Clemens got nixed by a Frank Thomas led committee they wouldn\'t be eligible again for many years.  I thought Murphy would not be eligible again so soon as well.<br />\n<br />\nI think only Mattingly has a shot, Murphy just hasn\'t moved anyone in so many tries, although I wouldn\'t bet on Mattingly either for the same reason.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 11-03-2025 at <span class="time">02:56 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2548015" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2548015 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2548015_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2548015 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2548015 -' + '->';
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