Grey Flannel Auction Ending Tonight - Buyers Beware!

[GoldGloveGuy]

Buyers Beware! Grey Flannel auctions are selling a 1990 Tony Gwynn Gold Glove award that is a replica and they are selling it as an authentic award.

The real award was sold through the Realist earlier in the fall from the Gwynn estate. I know GF doesn't always have the best reputation but them selling a replica of something that is clearly a 1/1 is really bad!


https://bid.greyflannelauctions.com/...e?itemid=58175

https://therealest.com/item/tony-gwynn-gold-glove-award

[doug.goodman]

I know nothing about this kind of stuff, but it seems like finding a picture of any player holding his award IN 1990 would at least tell us which print type on the glove part of the award is correct, since both of the auctions have Gwynn a COA
.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I know nothing about this kind of stuff, but it seems like finding a picture of any player holding his award IN 1990 would at least tell us which print type on the glove part of the award is correct, since both of the auctions have Gwynn a COA
.

That’s actually super smart! Here is Griffey holding a 1990 award. I think the pic is legit and that would not match the Grey Flannel glove print but does match the previous sale.

[GoldGloveGuy]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I know nothing about this kind of stuff, but it seems like finding a picture of any player holding his award IN 1990 would at least tell us which print type on the glove part of the award is correct, since both of the auctions have Gwynn a COA
.

Card Padre did a great job finding the Griffey 1990 award.

Some of these players elect to have replicas made, this is what happened with the Gwynn item.

I have made Grey Flannel aware of the listing and they have done nothing besides tell me they were looking into it!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by GoldGloveGuy

Some of these players elect to have replicas made, this is what happened with the Gwynn item.

So, are you saying it IS a 1990 Gold Glove award that belonged to Tony Gwynn?

[GoldGloveGuy]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

So, are you saying it IS a 1990 Gold Glove award that belonged to Tony Gwynn?

That is what I was told from a third party, but GF is advertising it as the authentic item. Whoever ends up winning that is going to believe they have the actual gold glove award, when in fact it is only a replica.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by GoldGloveGuy

That is what I was told from a third party, but GF is advertising it as the authentic item. Whoever ends up winning that is going to believe they have the actual gold glove award, when in fact it is only a replica.

YOU just said it's an authentic item, according to a third party.


From the description : "1990 Rawlings Gold Glove Award representing the fourth of HoFer - Tony Gwynn’s five career Gold Gloves"

It's an award.

plus

It was owned by Tony.

equals

It's Tony's award.



If it was sitting on my kitchen table and guest asked me what it was I could and would say "Tony Gwynn's Gold Glove Award from 1990."


The winner will have an actual Gold Glove award previously owned by Tony Gwynn.


The owner of the Gretzky Wagner never says "yeah but it's trimmed" when told his card is beautiful.

[GoldGloveGuy]

But you would agree that there is a difference between the actual award and a replica award right?

Willie Mays had some similar ones and Hunt auctions disclosed all the ones that were replicas and those sold for significantly less than the actual award

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by GoldGloveGuy

But you would agree that there is a difference between the actual award and a replica award right?

Yes, I would absolutely agree.

But, depending on the hammer of this one, I would possibly argue that it's a better deal to own this one of Tony's 1990 GG awards.

[GoldGloveGuy]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Yes, I would absolutely agree.

But, depending on the hammer of this one, I would possibly argue that it's a better deal to own this one of Tony's 1990 GG awards.

Yeah, whoever buys this one is getting a much lower price, guessing it comes in at under 20k. I think that is a better deal than the authentic one that sold for 100k.

[balltrash]

Gwynn had a restaurant in which many of his "awards" were displayed including both Gold Gloves and Silver Slugger figural bats. These (presumably) were duplicates made at his request. There have been other instances of both Gold Gloves and Silver Slugger Awards which trace back directly to the Gwynn Family that seem to be duplicates of others which have already been sold (which can also be traced back to the Gwynn Family). I believe that there is or was also a display in Gwynn Stadium at San Diego State which has/had some Gold Gloves and possibly Silver Sluggers. These may be even more duplicates (triplicates ?) which were done at his behest. Unfortunate but in some cases it may never be known which was THE original and which one is AN "original" which came from his collection. (I am in NO WAY implying that anyone is doing anything with ill intent - just pointing out that there is a pretty gray area with regard to these pieces).

[GoldGloveGuy]

Originally Posted by balltrash

Gwynn had a restaurant in which many of his "awards" were displayed including both Gold Gloves and Silver Slugger figural bats. These (presumably) were duplicates made at his request. There have been other instances of both Gold Gloves and Silver Slugger Awards which trace back directly to the Gwynn Family that seem to be duplicates of others which have already been sold (which can also be traced back to the Gwynn Family). I believe that there is or was also a display in Gwynn Stadium at San Diego State which has/had some Gold Gloves and possibly Silver Sluggers. These may be even more duplicates (triplicates ?) which were done at his behest. Unfortunate but in some cases it may never be known which was THE original and which one is AN "original" which came from his collection. (I am in NO WAY implying that anyone is doing anything with ill intent - just pointing out that there is a pretty gray area with regard to these pieces).

I have been told the same thing regarding his gold gloves and his silver bat awards (different than silver sluggers). That is the award that is given to the highest batting average in MLB.

The difference in the gold gloves is noticeable that someone can hopefully decipher the differences. No idea on the silver bats

[doug.goodman]

My style of collecting would prefer to own "A" Tony Gwynn GGA for $13k instead of "THE" Tony Gwynn GGA for $102k.

But that's just me.

You be you.

Doug (aka Doug) Goodman



PS - my "holy grail" of awards would be the Silver Slugger Bat awarded to Roberto Clemente that was dented by his sons played baseball with it.