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Old 11-13-2025, 01:39 PM
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The 5 x7 versions of these photos are indeed super sharp...they remind me of a larger version of the quality photos seen in the W503 set. But perhaps even more stunning because of their larger size. I would like to do a confirmation of the dating on these as well, but in comparison to the regular, smaller sized R316 Kashin cards, they are substantially less common.

Tracking down all the images of these is probably a difficult or even currently an impossible task. Heritage Auctions had an incredible grouping of these in a February 2024 auction, with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig offered individually, and 99 in a group lot:

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50068-80150.s

Unfortunately they did researchers no favors by only depicting the 12 graded cards in the lot. They did provide the last name of the players included in the lot. First off, the title of the lot indicates that it contains 99 of the 101 in the set. If you count the players included, they only list 98. There is one duplicate, Fred Maguire, so it is possible that they inaccurately included this in the 99 amount. I believe they instead left one name off, because of the following information, starting off with the following 9 players listed that are not part of the regular R316 Kashin set:

Benge
Bricknell
Cochrane
Lind
McNeely
Metzler
Mitchell
Morgan
Myer

There is also listed a 10th player unknown in the R316 Kashin set, a "O'Hurst", but I believe this was an erroneous misspelling in the lot description, as there is a card of player Frank "Hurst" in the R316 Kashin set. Heritage did fortunately at least provide an image of the Mickey Cochrane card, one of 9 unknown, as is seen below:

r316kashin5x7cochrane.jpg

In conjunction with the above 9 unknown, there are 10 players in the R316 Kashin set that are not present in the Heritage lot:

Del Bisonette
Hank DeBerry
Charles Dressen
Howard Ehmke
Lefty Grove
Harvey Hendrick
Babe Herman
Shanty Hogan
Dazzy Vance
Jimmy Welsh

The fact that there are 9 unknown, and 10 not included, makes me believe Heritage left one player out in their lot description. Also interesting is that Jimmy Walsh was the one player in my original post that pushed the R316 Kashin issue date to July of 1929 at the earliest. Perhaps this could indicate an earlier issue date for these 5 x 7's...

As far as dating these 5 x 7 versions, I would never date any of them, even if they do look so sharp. But seriously, I will have to at some later date try to track as many of the 5 x 7 images down to see if there are any team designation differences, and try to figure out the identities of the 9 unknown in R316 Kashin 5 x 7's, noting the teams they played for a couple years before, during, and a couple of years after 1929.


Brian

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