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Side note:
Another bad thing about all of this is the fact it was a Phillies fan. Even 1,000 miles away from Citizens Bank Park, it seems like the old "700 Level at The Vet" behavior and image will persist. As someone who has been going to Phillies games for nearly 50 years, I dislike seeing anything that reinforces that stigma. Philadelphia fans have been booing Santa Claus, punching police horses, and throwing batteries for as long as I can remember. Approximately 1 in every million Philadelphia fans...but those are the ones people remember. Now we have another fan's behavior to deal with, and this one traveled quite some distance to bring shame to Phillies fans.
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she’s out of control - poor doggy 🙁
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Hi Eric- I find we are usually on the same sheet of music, but not this time.
I watched the video again, in slow motion, and can offer these observations: 1) Most importantly, and concerning the original point of the post, the internet witch hunt went terribly awry (shock!) and was grossly wrong. That's awful for the improperly accused woman. 2) I've seen countless scrambles too. You are correct in that the father wasn't violent; instead, he was a sneak. This doesn't justify what he did. 3) There were actually 2 people, not one, within crouching distance of retrieving the ball. They didn't get the chance, despite easily being closest to it and clearly making an effort to track it. Hard to judge by video of course, I'd say the father snuck in from 15 feet away. I mean, was he hoping the other people had no spines, or did he actually believe his behavior was proper? Who knows, not good either way... 4) Try this mental exercise. Imagine yourself at the grocery in an aisle. You look down at the ground for an item on the bottom shelf, and bend to pick it up. As you do so, you notice a $50 bill on the ground next to you. Then you see a guy in your peripheral vision, who abandoned his cart 15 away, swoop in and grab the $50 as you are reaching for it. Said guy then scurries back to his cart, ignoring the fact that you are still crouched where the bill was, and apparently acting like he has all of a sudden become invisible. Would you say something to this guy? I would... 5) You called the East Coast behavior thing- I was thinking it, you called it. Neither party acted well, for sure. I am glad the Phillies stepped up for the young fan. Trent King |
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The grocery thing is completely different, I’m not needing/wanting someone else’s $50 (Believe it or not ) but your right, I certainly would’ve spoke up n said “hey fella let’s find out who’s $50 that is” Last edited by Beercan collector; 09-09-2025 at 07:34 PM. |
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The guy went past 4 or 5 empty seats to get a home run ball for his son on (or almost on) his birthday. He didn't appear to do anything crazy to get it - no obvious pushing someone out of his way or grabbing it out of someone's hands. I've seen people at games do way worse things to get a ball than this guy did.
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I'm not sure how many people, I would hope a majority, upon seeing the man give the ball to a child would have just smiled, waved and walked away. That's not a battle, even if you win, that you will ever win in the court of public opinion. Just ask the guy who snatched the signed tennis players hat away from a kid. |
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I guess we all have different point of views, mine is the guy was well within his rights to gather the ball, she was out of line ,period. Otherwise you are saying no one can get a ball unless it is hit directly to you, with your rump seated, and not even sure you can reach for it.
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Thomas (icurnmedic)-
1) The internet rage mob were out of line for misidentifying the woman. 2) The guy was out of line. I get the distinct feeling many of the people defending his behavior on this site, would not have been happy with him weaseling past to grab a ball you were going to pick up, then gleefully pretending to be invisible (and playing the victim) immediately after. 3) The woman was out of line, far too confrontational. It may well be, however, that she too had someone who would like to own a HR ball (a grandchild, maybe). 4) In short, bad behavior by all the adults involved. Phillies did the right thing though. Main lesson is we live in a society that is largely graceless. Trent King |
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Richie kept in touch with that woman throughout the years. He felt horrible about what had happened.
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It was always one of his favorite stories to tell during games.
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Two things are wrong with this Phillies homer.
1) The woman who accosted the man for a ball he fairly got. Home runs are fair game, this woman had no right to the ball because it was hit near her. The man did NOTHING wrong. He ran over and snagged it off the concrete. The woman didn't have it in her hands...Not even sure how she thought she was going to grab it with a phone in her hand. 2) The internet trying to track this woman down and ruin her life. It's just a Harrison Bader home run. It's not like this was a milestone million dollar baseball.
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Slidekellyslide-
1) Couldn't you apply "It's not like this was a milestone million-dollar baseball" to the man's behavior, as well? I am NOT defending the woman's outburst, I'm saying the logic goes both ways. 2) More than one commenter has mentioned the word "right" in a post on this topic. I'm certain I haven't stated anyone has a "right" to possess a foul ball. It's more accurate to say it's a matter of propriety. I wouldn't make a beeline to another section of seats, casually pop in front of the folks who were MUCH closer to the ball, snag it, then go back and make sure I didn't look their way afterward. Would you? The guy was sneaky, period. 3) I'm not an apologist for the woman. When I watch the video I just think it's pretty gross all the way around. The internet behavior is deplorable. Our species doesn't come off looking good at all ![]() Trent King |
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Ever been to a major league baseball game? Home run balls have been a free for all since time began. The guy you are saying was in the wrong did absolutely nothing wrong at all.
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