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Old 04-26-2025, 03:59 PM
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Hi Gang:

Being an old head I do not go in much for grading. So I have no history to know the answer to my question.

If you submit a card, say for example, as a 1953 Topps card and it is actually a 1991 Topps 1953 reprint card does PSA grade it as a 1991 or return it ungraded? And I guess vica versa.

Can you ask them not to correct an error like this if you list it as the wrong year?

And if they return it ungraded do they charge you for it?

Any info appreciated
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Old 04-26-2025, 05:53 PM
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PSA would grade it if it's an authorized reprint. You could try to put a sticky note or explanation to return Ungraded if it's a reprint, but it would be up to them. And then, a small preventative of the time, the will not notice and grade it as the original card.
You've got to trust that they can still detect a real original card, and they've proven on some occasions incapable of accomplishing that.

Add: i will say, you should easily be able to tell the difference between those sets, because the original 1953 is a larger size than a Topps reprint which measures 2.5x3.5.
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Old 04-26-2025, 06:42 PM
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My experience when they suspect the card is not authentic is that they do not charge you for it. I’ve had it happen a few times, usually for stuff that is clearly authentic, but I think they didn’t like for other reasons, like a complete Jello box that had a flap taped back on. For whatever reason they labeled it in their error report as not authentic, probably because they either don’t have another code for why they didn’t like it, or they were in too big of a hurry to use the right code.

In the example you mentioned, assuming they identified it as a reprint, they would probably label it as such, and grade it, and charge you for it. They do give you the option to click a button if you think they got it wrong. Although my experience with the button isn’t all that great. Sometimes they just kick it back to you and tell you that they can’t figure it out, even when you clearly submit it as the correct issue, and their team for some reason labels it as another issue.

If you buy a card that is clearly a reprint but is labeled on the flip as the original, a few things happen. First is they don’t honor their guarantee. Secondly, if you contact them, they will give you a FedEx shipping label to send it in to have it corrected. I once bought a 53T Mays in PSA 9 that was clearly a reprint, just to get them to fix their silly pop report.
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Hi Gang:

Being an old head I do not go in much for grading. So I have no history to know the answer to my question.

If you submit a card, say for example, as a 1953 Topps card and it is actually a 1991 Topps 1953 reprint card does PSA grade it as a 1991 or return it ungraded? And I guess vica versa.

Can you ask them not to correct an error like this if you list it as the wrong year?

And if they return it ungraded do they charge you for it?

Any info appreciated
It’s painfully obvious as to the difference. How could someone miss that?
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Old 04-26-2025, 10:17 PM
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It’s painfully obvious as to the difference. How could someone miss that?
It takes a special skill set to miss it entirely. See my example above.
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Old 04-26-2025, 10:44 PM
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Guys:

Thanks for you input.

But most of you missed these words in my post:

say for example,

The 53 Topps is NOT the cards I will ask PSA about. I was just asking about original vs reprint

I believe PSA does grade the reprint for the set I am asking about but there is a another "curve" to this story.

Someone took an ungraded reprint 1948 HOF Exhibit card and somehow "attached" a postcard back with hand writing and a 1948 postmark. I missed the telltale sign that it is a reprint (my bad!!) , won the card it went through Ebay authentication while I was away from home for two months.

When I returned I see the card is a reprint, and contact ebay. Too late for ebay to reconsider I am told( 30 days I think) . I show them proof it is a reprint they say now if I put it through PSA and they say it is a reprint they will "revisit" with no promise to make me whole.

I asked doesn't PSA do your authentication? Was told yes. So I asked if it comes back as a reprint then who do you believe? The first PSA authentication or the second?

Here is the item:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276894870924
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Old 04-26-2025, 10:57 PM
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Sounds like some pretty exciting stuff, and someone who seemed pretty determined to pass it off as an original.

No clue how PSA will approach this, except my guess is that if you try to send it in as an original, they will label it as the reprint, slab it, and charge you. But that’s just a guess. And if you send it in as a reprint, then the same thing will happen. I feel pretty confident about that last one, assuming they do recognize and slab the reprints currently.
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It looks like you are out $647, since you missed the 30 day deadline.


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It should have failed authentication for being listed as Excellent condition even if it weren't a reprint.
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