T206 Honus Wagner Authentic Restored

[Hankphenom]

Yes, the original is a hot mess, but it is the card. But the market seems to have spoken on the issue of restoration, so why not develop a CGI/3-D printing process that will restore cards to perfection and sell them that way? I think I see the future.

[theshowandme]

Makes you think!

[mrreality68]

It’s Back

This card selling again. 2021 it sold (pre restoration), then sold in fall 2023 and now I see on instagram that this card starting March 16th back on Mile High.
Went for $1.96 million dollars in 2013

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

It’s Back

This card selling again. 2021 it sold (pre restoration), then sold in fall 2023 and now I see on instagram that this card starting March 16th back on Mile High.
Went for $1.96 million dollars in 2013

I saw that email. Good luck, Jeff. Don’t forget to post it in the pickup thread!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

It’s Back

This card selling again. 2021 it sold (pre restoration), then sold in fall 2023 and now I see on instagram that this card starting March 16th back on Mile High.
Went for $1.96 million dollars in 2013

Any predictions on whether the price will be higher today than in 2023, and if so, by how much?

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I saw that email. Good luck, Jeff. Don’t forget to post it in the pickup thread!

Very funny
But I do appreciate the laugh
Well beyond me but would love to have one
Dream a Little Dream

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by raulus

Any predictions on whether the price will be higher today than in 2023, and if so, by how much?

Not sure we have seen a Wagner sell for less when offered again but I am going with the under on this one or that it does not meet the reserve, should there be one. Was a very strong price in 2023 but I am not even close to being in THAT market so this is just a gut feeling.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I would hope that a true collector with the adequate funds at their disposal would opt for a non-restored version, as rough in appearance as it may be, over some sort of FrankenWagz.

To me, a piece like this should only appeal to a non-collector of means who mostly wants to impress other non-collectors in a "look what I can afford" vein. That's what this item was bastardized for and who it's geared towards.

I don't care how "well" any restoration was done. It may look nice, but I prefer to see the battle scars of 115 years of survival.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I think they should cut it up and insert the pieces in a future Topps product...

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I think they should cut it up and insert the pieces in a future Topps product...

Oh great. Then we could have more controversy over which pieces are true T206 and which are pieces added by the "restorer". The ensuing lawsuit over having received a fake portion of the Wagner would be the ultimate silliness.

But honestly, with so much lipstick on this pig, I'd be fine with seeing one less intact Wagner in existence. This thing is already destroyed to any legitimate collector's eye--I don't care how nicely a job was done. As an autograph person, I wouldn't want a faded Joe Jackson that was outsourced to some "artiste" to enhance it with fresh ink, either. Same thing.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Oh great. Then we could have more controversy over which pieces are true T206 and which are pieces added by the "restorer". The ensuing lawsuit over having received a fake portion of the Wagner would be the ultimate silliness.

But honestly, with so much lipstick on this pig, I'd be fine with seeing one less intact Wagner in existence. This thing is already destroyed to any legitimate collector's eye--I don't care how nicely a job was done. As an autograph person, I wouldn't want a faded Joe Jackson that was outsourced to some "artiste" to enhance it with fresh ink, either. Same thing.

I was being somewhat facetious, but I agree with the sentiment that the card is destroyed already, so why not?

[campyfan39]

Agree. Just another egregious example of the corruption of PSA. If any of us did anything to a card, like coloring the corner on a 71 topps, we would get an automatic A (Altered)

Originally Posted by Section103

Its amazing what money will do. If this is restored, every card altered in a similar way is restored. If independent grading companies are blatantly giving preference to certain cards/customers, then they are far more worthless than even their most ardent critics could suggest.

[mrreality68]

I agree restored cards are not for me and most true collectors.

And I really like the autographed analogy

Interesting that in comic books it is accepted. They are clearly labeled and are worth less than non restored. But still accepted

[lumberjack]

Once the hobby accepts restoration on cards, watch out. Because years ago, it was accepted in the comic book industry, and now it seems like there's more restored comics than untouched comics for the rare issues. Years ago, I owned a restored and unrestored Amazing Spider-Man #1, and even though the unrestored looked like a lower grade, I liked it more than the restored comic. I eventually sold both comics and the restored comic got 4 times the price of the non restored comic. Didn't expect that. I'd rather the restoration process stays away from the baseball card hobby. Once it starts, over 95 percent of the authentic or 1 graded 1952 Topps Mantles, will be restored. Because comics are like that now. The grading companies have a different color label for restored comics, and it seems like a majority of the key comics, are no longer original.

Very astute; it will happen simply because the original work will be too expensive for just about EVERYBODY.
When I got back into collecting in the mid '70s, George Lyons, who had some clout in those days, said something to the effect of, "What happens when we run out of 19th century cards?"
Well, we did and post war gum took off.