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View Poll Results: Should GA disclose that the PSA 6.5 WWG Dimaggio is the same card as the SGC MIN SIZE
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:35 AM
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But you wouldn't tell him if it got bumped from a 6 to an 8?
I probably would, but that's a personal choice to be completely transparent. I would feel obligated on the MIN SIZE.
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I probably would, but that's a personal choice to be completely transparent. I would feel obligated on the MIN SIZE.
A bump from a 6 to an 8 is not material but a Min Size to a grade at another TPG is? The difference in value from a 6 to 8 is significant on cards from all eras.
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I have already explained why I think these are different in terms of disclosure. I am sure you disagree, but I am not going to repeat it yet again.
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I have already explained why I think these are different in terms of disclosure. I am sure you disagree, but I am not going to repeat it yet again.
By all means do not repeat it. Ryan will flip out.
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By all means do not repeat it. Ryan will flip out.
LOL yeah that's what I was afraid of, mostly. 88-84 yes as we speak. But of course people are now assuming the Yes votes are misinformed.
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LOL yeah that's what I was afraid of, mostly. 88-84 yes as we speak. But of course people are now assuming the Yes votes are misinformed.
Well some of the yes votes are clearly misinformed. But the N is too small still and if the margin is that close then there is no mandate either way.

If nobody has done anything to a card to make it gain value by virtue of a bump in a grade (i.e. the 6 to 8 example of an SGC Min Size to PSA 6.5) then I feel disclosure could be made but it is 100% not necessary. Don't care if the card went from being worth 10 cents in the first assessment to being worth 150K in the second. This is nothing more than a different opinion based on a different day at the grading service. For anyone who submits a lot of cards and knows how almost random the assessments are, they would know that an opinion changing is a non event. Travis has alluded to this often and shown examples of it many times.

From my vantage point, if you do something to a card, even if it is innocent and what a majority of the board agrees is ok to do, and the card gets a bump in grade, then that needs to/should be disclosed.
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As to your last point, that of course is where the overwhelming majority of the hobby's issues lie. And we will rarely, if ever, see disclosure even when known.
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