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View Poll Results: Should GA disclose that the PSA 6.5 WWG Dimaggio is the same card as the SGC MIN SIZE
Yes 104 50.73%
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Old 01-27-2025, 10:03 PM
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I think most buyers understand that some cards have a grading history and, so long as the cards weren't rejected, wouldn't view that as important. Also, as a practical point, auction houses probably aren't going to know that history in most cases. But when a card has been deemed not worthy of even a grade (a HUGE blow to its value, as we can see already from the current price already sitting at multiples of the AUTH/MS), and the seller KNOWS that, that feels disclosable to me. Could you do a Socratic method on this reasoning? Probably.
Definitely seems like we’re talking about degrees here. It’s okay to not disclose that the card went from a 3 to a 5 or a 7 to a 9, but from A to a number grade is more meaningful.

And I don’t dispute your logic.

But it does seem like there are a number of situations where going up a couple of grades at the top of the scale could be more valuable even than going from A to 6. But I suppose in some ways it’s less about the value swing and more about the qualitative elements.

Although it’s awful hard to suggest that the money isn’t a big piece of the puzzle, as always.
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And what if a card was deemed altered by a grader who showed up to work drunk (or at least dumb) that day? Then the owner cracked it out and resubmitted it 5 times just to be pentuply sure it wasn't in fact altered? And what if it then received 5 different grades across those 5 different submissions? What obligations to disclose would we have then? Asking for a friend.

Oh, and the correct grade for this card is a 7.5.
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And what if a card was deemed altered by a grader who showed up to work drunk (or at least dumb) that day? Then the owner cracked it out and resubmitted it 5 times just to be pentuply sure it wasn't in fact altered? And what if it then received 5 different grades across those 5 different submissions? What obligations to disclose would we have then? Asking for a friend.

Oh, and the correct grade for this card is a 7.5.
That is one of the wildest examples of the absurdity and random nature of grading I’ve ever seen. Thanks for sharing!
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Trimed / Altered <> Min. Size

When I was a kid, I pulled from a pack a 1969 OPC Bobby Orr #24.

Fast forward to about 10 years ago where I submitted both to PSA. Once came back PSA 5, and the other came back Min Size.

Let me be 100% clear... I pulled both cards from 10 cent packs.

I put the PSA 5 into my set, and I stored the Min Size, as it wasn't holdered.

About a year ago I submitted the Min Size card again in another order with PSA and it came back as a PSA 7.

I replaced the PSA 5 with the PSA 7 in my set. I have zero guilt in doing so. And it does nothing to affect the enjoyment I get from looking at that set.
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Old 01-28-2025, 03:33 AM
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I voted yes. Truly surprised the nays have it so far. Caveat emptor indeed!

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This has happened so many times it's just a difference of paid opinions. I vote no..so many times the grading companies get it wrong. I can't vote yes on this one sorry.
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This has happened so many times it's just a difference of paid opinions. I vote no..so many times the grading companies get it wrong. I can't vote yes on this one sorry.
This times 100!
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This has happened so many times it's just a difference of paid opinions. I vote no..so many times the grading companies get it wrong. I can't vote yes on this one sorry.
This times 1000. Anyone who voted 'Yes' obviously doesn't grade cards with any sort of regularity. Would be hilarious to see a crosstab of voter results by card grading status.
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