I may have to sue Fanatics or Fedex-UPDATED 5/8/25 AT END OF THREAD

[Peter_Spaeth]

SGC does not grade Star BKB unless it's an extremely recent thing. There are still lots of BGS ones that have not been crossed. The problem with crossing is in most cases the centering is going to foreclose the 8 grade even if the card is a killer BGS 8 with mint corners. But I am sure they make exceptions for submitters on the Animal Farm plan.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SGC does not grade Star BKB unless it's an extremely recent thing. There are still lots of BGS ones that have not been crossed. The problem with crossing is in most cases the centering is going to foreclose the 8 grade even if the card is a killer BGS 8 with mint corners. But I am sure they make exceptions for submitters on the Animal Farm plan.

I keep telling myself that about the BGS 8 (centering 7.5, corners 9.5, edges 9.5 surface 9) we sold a few years ago before PSA started grading them.

What's the old saying? A day late and a dollar short? We were a couple years early and about $30,000 short.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I keep telling myself that about the BGS 8 (centering 7.5, corners 9.5, edges 9.5 surface 9) we sold a few years ago before PSA started grading them.

What's the old saying? A day late and a dollar short? We were a couple years early and about $30,000 short.

Yeah, I bought my 8 which should be an 8.5 many moons ago. It would be a crime to put it in a 7 holder or even 7.5 IMO.

[notfast]

So what did the police say?

[samosa4u]

I heard that some of the Beckett graded examples are under-sized and PSA won't grade these. So, people just leave them in the Beckett holders.

I used to have a BGS 7.5 that I sold years ago (before PSA started grading them). Like hundreds of others before me, I too tried to get them to grade the Star cards and even spoke to Joe Orlando, but they didn't give a sh*t. It doesn't bother me that much though because my 7.5 had centering issues and corner wear, and would've probably graded a PSA 5.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SGC does not grade Star BKB unless it's an extremely recent thing.

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I used to have a BGS 7.5 that I sold years ago (before PSA started grading them). Like hundreds of others before me, I too tried to get them to grade the Star cards and even spoke to Joe Orlando, but they didn't give a sh*t.

Why not? I thought they'd grade anything if there was a buck in it.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Why not? I thought they'd grade anything if there was a buck in it.

From what I've heard/read, PSA couldn't authenticate genuine Star cards and identify fakes.

That could be a myth; however, it was oft-cited as the reason.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As I understand, very early on PSA got burned grading a few bad Star Jordans. Orlando then vowed never again, and would not relent even when the most knowledgeable people about Star offered to train the graders -- as I believe was done for Beckett. These people tell me it's not all that difficult and that Orlando overreacted. Recently, Nat Turner finally changed direction for PSA.

[jchcollins]

Any updates here? I'm hoping against all odds that there was some miracle and Russ somehow got his card.

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Any updates here? I'm hoping against all odds that there was some miracle and Russ somehow got his card.

Same here. I'm hoping for a good outcome for the OP.

[russkcpa]

The card has never shown up

I filed a police report which enabled me to have the PSA certificate cancelled

A "delivery dispute" has been filed by Fanatics with Fedex . I honestly don't know where this will end up. My rep at Fanatics believes "Fedex will be difficult" yet he has never seen a situation like this.

I will wait for an official response from Fedex before I take legal action. My rep understands that I will take legal action against Fanatics and Fedex.

I am preparing a summary containing all of the comments on this thread that describe virtually the same issue with the delivery of a Fedex package requiring direct signature confirmation. Please keep them coming. Thanks so much for your support.
Russ