Anyone want to chat about 1920s strip cards?

kmac32 · #1 11-29-2024, 09:53 PM

Rocky, have you ever seen a complete 10 card strip of W572 cards from 1923?
I have one! Single cards are easy to find but complete strips are highly unusual.

dbussell12 · #2 11-29-2024, 11:43 PM

the crummy cuts are some of my favorites and its definitely the rawness that makes them meaningful and powerful to me. they represent in many ways, to me, a distillation of everything that baseball cards are in their unassuming power. i bet you guys both have sweet collections! would love to see some of your favorites if you'd like to share!

pawpawdiv9 · #3 11-30-2024, 07:35 AM

I love the big heads
Only need ping to complete it
Tough lil boogers

ullmandds · #4 11-30-2024, 08:45 AM

i used to hate hate hate strip cards...now I love them...atleast many of them. But I mainly collect ruths...so all of my strips are his.

The transitional nature of them following the big war intrigues me...the way they were issued. I can just imagine the vendor tearing off the cards for the pestering kids...or maybe some of them used scissors and took more care?

dbussell12 · #5 11-30-2024, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

i used to hate hate hate strip cards...now I love them...atleast many of them. But I mainly collect ruths...so all of my strips are his.

The transitional nature of them following the big war intrigues me...the way they were issued. I can just imagine the vendor tearing ff the cards for the pestering kids...or maybe some of them used scissors and took more care?

that 572 babe ruth is phenomenal. that might actually be my favorite ruth card that i've seen thus far. i love the cut on it too. what a perfect piece. you've got a great collection through and through though here too. i totally agree with you on the transitional nature of the cards, thats a great way to put it. the imaginative aspect about how people participated in the act of creating them is huge

dbussell12 · #6 11-30-2024, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

I love the big heads
Only need ping to complete it
Tough lil boogers

set completion of those is sweet! it must look awesome having them all together. good luck on the last one!!

shammus · #7 11-30-2024, 11:28 AM

Moving this topic to the main board so it can be seen by all.....enjoy!

jingram058 · #8 11-30-2024, 11:38 AM

I also used to hate them. Then I got 5 of the w514 cards. Now I realize the artwork on these is really good. And as with all cards, there's history beyond the players on the cards. Who bought them? Where did they buy them? Who cut them out? How were they managed to be kept?

dbussell12 · #9 11-30-2024, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

I also used to hate them. Then I got 5 of the w514 cards. Now I realize the artwork on these is really good. And as with all cards, there's history beyond the players on the cards. Who bought them? Where did they buy them? Who cut them out? How were they managed to be kept?

Exactly. that's a great point. and i think there's that added layer of who cut them out and the way it was cut by hand which is a really fantastic level of added depth. i also love that they aren't 'branded' so to speak. they're sort of this public domain, mass produced insert. i find that aspect of it fascinating

dbussell12 · #10 11-30-2024, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shammus

Moving this topic to the main board so it can be seen by all.....enjoy!

Thanks Brian! sorry about that, didn't mean to post it in the wrong place. cheers!

pawpawdiv9 · #11 12-01-2024, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussell12

set completion of those is sweet! it must look awesome having them all together. good luck on the last one!!

Here is a thread--i posted the Big Heads and some others has some.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...6+unc+big+head

Spike · #12 12-01-2024, 10:58 PM

Good to see more of the 1920s strip sets on here! I've looked at a lot of sports and non-sport strip sets of that era. One company (Universal Toy & Novelty Co.) appears to be who created several, and they first focused on actors, boxers, and baseball. Later, they added US presidents and more. If you're a reader, I went after how the ACC could classify these strips, based on what Burdick wrote about W500 cards in his time and what's better-known about these cards today.

https://www.number5typecollection.co...hollywood.html

Here's one scarce strip issue I'd love to see more of, as they share the handwritten lettering style of Universal Toy, and could date to 1922-24, given their art style and ink colors. Anyone else have some in this reddish cultural style?

Mungo Hungo · #13 12-01-2024, 11:47 PM

I'd be interested in a discussion of the legitimacy of the '20s strip cards in relation to others such as T206 and 1930s gum issues.

Pre-1967 releases tend not to be discussed in those terms very often, because the major league licensing program literally did not exist. But of course we know that certain cards were issued with specific permission from the depicted players, while others were not. For example, my understanding is that the T206 cards largely were legitimate in that manner, except that the Wagner wasn't (leading to its scarcity after its withdrawal).

What is the case with the strip cards? Were any of them issued in accordance with agreements with the players?

dbussell12 · #14 12-02-2024, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike

Good to see more of the 1920s strip sets on here! I've looked at a lot of sports and non-sport strip sets of that era. One company (Universal Toy & Novelty Co.) appears to be who created several, and they first focused on actors, boxers, and baseball. Later, they added US presidents and more. If you're a reader, I went after how the ACC could classify these strips, based on what Burdick wrote about W500 cards in hits time and what's better-known about these cards today.

https://www.number5typecollection.co...hollywood.html

Here's one scarce strip issue I'd love to see more of, as they share the handwritten lettering style of Universal Toy, and could date to 1922-24, given their art style and ink colors. Anyone else have some in this reddish cultural style?

really interesting spike. i really like the one on the left. it looks like it could be a design from a book!

NiceDocter · #15 11-30-2024, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kmac32

Rocky, have you ever seen a complete 10 card strip of W572 cards from 1923?
I have one! Single cards are easy to find but complete strips are highly unusual.

Never have seen this one before! Sounds pretty cool!

VEROCARDS · #16 11-30-2024, 11:59 PM

I have 1 Becker card, #17 Art Nehr.

VEROCARDS · #17 12-01-2024, 12:01 AM

#17 Nehf with Becker back.

VEROCARDS · #18 12-01-2024, 12:05 AM

w516's

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