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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Aspergers guy getting frisky.

You should keep pretending like someone striking a plea deal is equivalent to them being tried and found guilty by a jury of every single thing mentioned in that plea deal.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You should keep pretending like someone striking a plea deal is equivalent to them being tried and found guilty by a jury of every single thing mentioned in that plea deal.

I have to admire a man who is shown to be clearly wrong, but instead of admitting he's out of his depth, then doubles down. Over and over again. You've been wrong about nearly every single thing you've said about the Mastro case since the beginning when you kept insisting that the Wagner card was not even part of the charges. But this -- thinking you know more about guilty pleas than a leading criminal defense lawyer -- is truly beyond the pale lol.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have to admire a man who is shown to be clearly wrong, but instead of admitting he's out of his depth, then doubles down. Over and over again. You've been wrong about nearly every single thing you've said about the Mastro case since the beginning when you kept insisting that the Wagner card was not even part of the charges. But this -- thinking you know more about guilty pleas than a leading criminal defense lawyer -- is truly beyond the pale lol.

Just because getting a jury to find a defendant guilty on a charge and getting someone to agree to a plea deal both result in you being able to tally another 'W' on your oh-so-important W/L record doesn't mean they're equivalent. This isn't a discussion about how the law works out how a courtroom works. It's a simple logic problem. And you guys look stupid whether you realize it or not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Just because getting a jury to find a defendant guilty on a charge and getting someone to agree to a plea deal both result in you being able to tally another 'W' on your oh-so-important W/L record doesn't mean they're equivalent. This isn't a discussion about how the law works out how a courtroom works. It's a simple logic problem. And you guys look stupid whether you realize it or not.

Oh so now it's not a discussion about the law? I missed that qualifier. So what are we discussing, just subjective impressions? Your personal belief that one is less significant than the other even though the legal effect is identical? Oh, ok.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Snowman

And you guys look stupid whether you realize it or not.

I can't really add anything here. Bloody bloody Mary look in the mirror. That's all I've got

[Belfast1933]

(Deleting my message - probably misread your comment, Ted…

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Snowman

You should keep pretending like someone striking a plea deal is equivalent to them being tried and found guilty by a jury of every single thing mentioned in that plea deal.

There's something seriously wrong with your brain, Asperger's.

Again: a defendant who pled guilty to charges has the same effect as being convicted by a jury -- in fact, most would suggest he's more guilty by pleading because he can't blame a mistaken jury or government misconduct at a trial, or any number of potential appellate issues which could vacate his conviction.

Mastro pled guilty to every charge he faced and admitted to even more bad conduct which wasn't charged.

But you know more about the law because you have a ten card collection and you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[Republicaninmass]

I've heard of fur burgers, but never have eaten an Ass burger. Just me though, i could be missing out.