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Old 11-19-2024, 05:19 PM
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Does pitcher count? Johnson, Young, Mathewson, Brown, Plank, Walsh, Waddell, Joss.
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His peak was brief but Nomar, A-rod, Jeter all playing short in the AL in their primes was great. Barry Larkin was still making all star teams too in the NL at the same time.
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His peak was brief but Nomar, A-rod, Jeter all playing short in the AL in their primes was great. Barry Larkin was still making all star teams too in the NL at the same time.
Tejada had some really big years too including that absurd 150 RBI season.
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Tejada had some really big years too including that absurd 150 RBI season.
Might as well throw Vizquel in there to. 11 Gold Gloves, almost 3000 hits.
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At Catcher we had Johnny Bench, Carlton Fisk, Gary Carter, Thurman Munson, Gene Tenace and Ted Simmons overlap. All Top 15 All-Time in both WAR and JAWS.

with Honorable mentions going to: Lance Parrish, Gene Tenace, Jim Sundberg, Darrell Porter. All top 25......then throw in Bob Boone for his 7 Gold Gloves.
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Cheating a little, but 1951 CF DiMaggio, Mays, Mantle, Snider.
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Fisk, Carter, Irod and Piazza all overlap in the early 90s. There's another 4 in the top 10.
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Can't get to 4 at the top tier level, but Lajoie, Collins and Hornsby were all active in 1915 and 1916, who may well be the 1st, 2nd and 3rd best 2B of all time.
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At 3rd base in the 80s you have Wade Boggs, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, and Paul Molitor.
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His peak was brief but Nomar, A-rod, Jeter all playing short in the AL in their primes was great. Barry Larkin was still making all star teams too in the NL at the same time.
Ripken put up a .950 OPS in 1999 if that's enough of an overlap to include him.
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Don't know if this counts as active at one time, but I have never seen anything like this before.
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Don't know if this counts as active at one time, but I have never seen anything like this before.

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Ripken put up a .950 OPS in 1999 if that's enough of an overlap to include him.
He was playing 3B by then. But was still playing short I think when Jeter and ARod came up.
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Ripken put up a .950 OPS in 1999 if that's enough of an overlap to include him.

Yeah, Ripken had a really nice half season in '99. Batted .340 in 86 games. Maybe he should have taken a break more often.
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Defensive metrics really love Cal. I think we took him for granted during his career in that aspect, but he's got a higher lifetime Defensive WAR rating then Omar Vizquel, in about the same amount of games played.

Not quite Belanger-esque...but pretty close.
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His peak was brief but Nomar, A-rod, Jeter all playing short in the AL in their primes was great. Barry Larkin was still making all star teams too in the NL at the same time.
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Might as well throw Vizquel in there to. 11 Gold Gloves, almost 3000 hits.
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He was playing 3B by then. But was still playing short I think when Jeter and ARod came up.
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Yeah, Ripken had a really nice half season in '99. Batted .340 in 86 games. Maybe he should have taken a break more often.
1996 overlapping would include Ozzie Smith (1.6 WAR in 82 games), but would lose Miguel Tejada. Instead of Tejada you can add Edgar Renteria. And even Rey Ordonez, a light hitting defensive wizard. You also get a below average Alan Trammell at the end of his career (-1.1 WAR in 66 games).

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I think the position of catchers was particularly strong during the '30s since that position included such greats as Bill Dickey, Mickey Cochrane, Jimmy Foxx (albeit part-time), Gabby Hartnett, Ernie Lombardi, Rick Ferrell, and Josh Gibson, all of whom have been elected to Cooperstown.
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Does pitcher count? Johnson, Young, Mathewson, Brown, Plank, Walsh, Waddell, Joss.
Sure, I'm not thinking of stringent rules. Pitcher is easiest with a HOF standard instead of a top 10 standard. Grover Alexander started in 1911, Young's last year, so you could get Young, Mathewson, Johnson, and Alexander all at the same time + other HOFers
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