Most undervalued HOFers

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Huh? I haven't insulted you for your claim. I disagree with your reliance on some metrics I don't care for, but I didn't insult you for it. The only insults I've made were regarding your crappy attitude.

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.



After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.







After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours. You made a claim several people disagreed with and got your panties in a bunch demanding people argue with you about it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours.

Do you have an actual argument or counter claim yet?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Do you have an actual argument or counter claim yet?

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Okay. After ~200 posts, does anyone have an actual argument against my claim or are we all done here gents to move on to the next claim?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Okay. After ~200 posts, does anyone have an actual argument against my claim or are we all done here gents to move on to the next claim?

Is your ego so fragile that you are still here begging for someone to reassure you that you can read baseball reference by yourself?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Is your ego so fragile that you are still here begging for someone to reassure you that you can read baseball reference by yourself?

All you have are insults. If you don't care about my claim and career values, stop throwing a fit over it all night lol

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

For what purpose are you picking the team? To win one game? For a season? The next 10 years? Are you picking him at his peak? At the average of his 5 year peak? At a level that would be representative of his overall career? Your hypo doesn't mean anything unless you define your terms? 1973 Ryan? 1993 Ryan? Somewhere in between?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For what purpose are you picking the team? To win one game? For a season? The next 10 years? Are you picking him at his peak? At the average of his 5 year peak? At a level that would be representative of his overall career? Your hypo doesn't mean anything unless you define your terms? 1973 Ryan? 1993 Ryan? Somewhere in between?

Doesn't that sort of highlight the point that James' list might need a bit more nuance before you can claim it means what you claim it must mean?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Doesn't that sort of highlight the point that James' list might need a bit more nuance before you can claim it means what you claim it must mean?

No, because James defines what he's doing, he's doing overall careers giving what he thinks are appropriate weight to total stats, peak, etc. I don't have it in front of me but it's sort of like the JAWS metric. You haven't defined your terms at all, you're just throwing out a loosey goosey execcise, picking someone for a playground.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

I don't understand why you say you don't care and yet keep trying to have a personal beef, even after conceding you can't find any argument against my claim. If you don't care, then move on. If you do care, than make a reasonable argument . I don't get why you are so upset over a claim you can't even counter. Why do you so badly want me to debate something else with you?

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

You use the word "math" a lot. I'm not sure you know what it means.

What math would we be talking about if not the math of my claim? Its pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Your understanding of math is amazing compared to your understanding of logic. (Hint: it's not good).

What logic if not the logic of my arguments and statements in this thread? If it's about another topic, then go argue in that other topic.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

I don't understand why you say you don't care and yet keep trying to have a personal beef, even after conceding you can't find any argument against my claim. If you don't care, then move on. If you do care, than make a reasonable argument . I don't get why you are so upset over a claim you can't even counter. Why do you so badly want me to debate something else with you?







What math would we be talking about if not the math of my claim? Its pretty obvious.







What logic if not the logic of my arguments and statements in this thread? If it's about another topic, then go argue in that other topic.

First, I don't know what you think is happening here, but I am not arguing what you seem to think I am. I am not upset in the slightest, by your claim. I'm not sure why you seem to think I am. I think you want someone to argue with your claim so bad you believe anyone who says something to you is challenging your claim.

Second, what you call using math, I call reading a statline on a website. Quit pretending you are doing any calculations. That's why I said it doesn't mean what you think it means. I was taking a jab at your repeated claims of using math, when you aren't using math at all.

The logic comment was in direct reference to your argument about use of Bill James' list.

For someone who likes to refer to the transcript, you sure don't pay much attention to it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

First, I don't know what you think is happening here, but I am not arguing what you seem to think I am.

Second, what you call using math, I call reading a statline on a website. Quit pretending you are doing any calculations. That's why I said it doesn't mean what you think it means. I was taking a jab at your repeated claims of using math, when you aren't using math at all.

You asked for examples, you got them. TIL that using math in an argument isn't using math because you didn't write the equation. Gotcha. You can be as angry as you want about a claim you have pretty well conceded was actually correct. Can we move on or do you need to get out any more criticisms and shots? Feeling okay yet? Ready to act like you don't care instead of just saying you don't?