Bronny James drafted by Lakers

[BobbyStrawberry]

I must admit I've never asked myself, "what would Kwame Brown think about this?"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Rough crowd, guy played 11 seasons in the NBA, entitled to an opinion.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rough crowd, guy played 11 seasons in the NBA, entitled to an opinion.

Swiftly followed by the opinion of the opinion…..


What’s the phrase?…“Opinions are like as&$oles……”

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rough crowd, guy played 11 seasons in the NBA, entitled to an opinion.

He is not entitled to speculate on things he knows nothing about. All reports are that Bronny is working hard to become an NBA player. He is entitled to chase his NBA dream just like Brown did.

About a third of 2nd round picks never play a game in the NBA. So, lots of players are doing exactly what Bronny did, putting their name into the draft and hoping to make the NBA. At pick 55, the Lakers took someone who they knew would put in the work rather than take a flyer on an unknown player. They gave him a guarenteed contract just like the Bucks gave Chris Livingston the #58 pick in the 2023 draft. So why all the hate?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

He is not entitled to speculate on things he knows nothing about. All reports are that Bronny is working hard to become an NBA player. He is entitled to chase his NBA dream just like Brown did.

About a third of 2nd round picks never play a game in the NBA. So, lots of players are doing exactly what Bronny did, putting their name into the draft and hoping to make the NBA. At pick 55, the Lakers took someone who they knew would put in the work rather than take a flyer on an unknown player. They gave him a guarenteed contract just like the Bucks gave Chris Livingston the #58 pick in the 2023 draft. So why all the hate?

Bronny scored 4 points a game in his one year in college. It seems fairly obvious the only reason he was drafted.

[G1911]

Accepting the premise that Kwame Brown should not be allowed to express an opinion, speculate, and/or speak on the subject at all because he is an insufficient authority, then logically why should anyone here be able to express their contrasting opinion? If Brown is an insufficient authority on who is qualified to be on an NBA team by merit, how is anyone here a greater authority and thus able to give their opinion?

[maniac_73]

I'll take a guys opinion who actually played the game at a high level vs some of these "journalists" who dont look like they've ever played a sport in their lives.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by maniac_73

I'll take a guys opinion who actually played the game at a high level vs some of these "journalists" who dont look like they've ever played a sport in their lives.

I don't think you need to pick or choose one or another.

You can just go with the one you have surmised seems to be the most informed on the matter, regardless of their background.

Former players will have varied opinions on the same subject, just as well as "journalists".

Some "journalists" may also be former players, and some former players may be nothing more than a troll or a pundit. Some accomplished former players are shitty "journalists", and most accomplished "journalists" are shitty (or non-existent) former players.

What if another former player who played the game at a "high level" comes out with an "opinion" that's the complete antithesis of Kwame Brown's "opinion"? Which one will you side with? So many questions, so little time.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by G1911

Accepting the premise that Kwame Brown should not be allowed to express an opinion, speculate, and/or speak on the subject at all because he is an insufficient authority, then logically why should anyone here be able to express their contrasting opinion? If Brown is an insufficient authority on who is qualified to be on an NBA team by merit, how is anyone here a greater authority and thus able to give their opinion?

He should certainly be allowed to express his opinion, just as anybody else should be allowed to express an opinion of his opinion.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

He is not entitled to speculate on things he knows nothing about. All reports are that Bronny is working hard to become an NBA player. He is entitled to chase his NBA dream just like Brown did.

About a third of 2nd round picks never play a game in the NBA. So, lots of players are doing exactly what Bronny did, putting their name into the draft and hoping to make the NBA. At pick 55, the Lakers took someone who they knew would put in the work rather than take a flyer on an unknown player. They gave him a guarenteed contract just like the Bucks gave Chris Livingston the #58 pick in the 2023 draft. So why all the hate?

Do you seriously think we'd be talking about this if Bronny was named Smith?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you seriously think we'd be talking about this if Bronny was named Smith?

Smith James?

Probably.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Smith James?

Probably.

How do you go from 4 PPG to the NBA?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How do you go from 4 PPG to the NBA?

Via extreme privilege and being a nepo baby

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How do you go from 4 PPG to the NBA?

He was a 5 Star High School recruit and McDonald's All-American who suffered a serious cardiac event leading into his only season in college, which obviously set him back on his year in college.

Types of players like this get drafted all the time in the NBA, without ever even seeing the floor in college basketball.

Listen, nobody is claiming he would have gotten drafted without Lebron as his daddy. Just that it's not that big a deal...especially where he got drafted. 2nd rounders are either "projects" or shots in the dark to begin with. Sure, there's diamonds in the rough that emerge on occasion, but odds wise, that's the obvious exception, and not the rule.

Just scanning over Kwame Browns draft class in 2001 (which to be fair to Kwame, was a terrible class outside of Pau Gasol and Tony Parker), more then 90% of 2nd rounders (and a decent % of 1st rounders), either never saw the floor, or were below replacement level players (VORP) during their mostly short careers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../NBA_2001.html

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you seriously think we'd be talking about this if Bronny was named Smith?

Probably, but Smith James would be a really weird name though...

EDIT: Damn, I got beat to the joke. I should read the entire thread before posting.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Probably, but Smith James would be a really weird name though...

EDIT: Damn, I got beat to the joke. I should read the entire thread before posting.

Like the bad joke from Mary Poppins.
I know a man with a wooden leg named Smith.
Really? What's the name of his other leg?

[packs]

Khris Middleton averaged a measly 11 points and 2 assists per game over three college seasons. He's now a three time All Star and NBA champion.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Like the bad joke from Mary Poppins.
I know a man with a wooden leg named Smith.
Really? What's the name of his other leg?

I knew a woman who tap danced on her left leg and toe danced on her right leg. Between the two she made a living...

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you seriously think we'd be talking about this if Bronny was named Smith?

That is exactly my point. Other players in his position are allowed to put their name in the draft and get picked at the end of the 2nd round and no one complains about them chasing their dream.

[Beercan collector]

No harm
He’s getting his chance to prove in quick dramatic fashion he does not belong in the league .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

That is exactly my point. Other players in his position are allowed to put their name in the draft and get picked at the end of the 2nd round and no one complains about them chasing their dream.

I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

Daniel Orton averaged 3.4 PPG and 3.3 RPG at Kentucky as a Freshman and was drafted at pick 29 at the end of the first round.
He played 51 games in the NBA averaging 2.8 PPG and 2.5 RPG. People weren't upset that he chased his NBA dream. Why the hate for Bronny?

As was pointed out above, since Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant, plenty of high school then freshmen college players are drafted on their potential and there are plenty who don't make it. Bronny being another one is no big deal, but people are trying to make it one.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

Nobody drafted Michael Jordan's kids.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rough crowd, guy played 11 seasons in the NBA, entitled to an opinion.

So is my garbage man...