1966 Topps Series Release Dates ... Approx?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by obcbeatle

Is there a website that shows all the 1966 series sheets?

There is a better chance of hitting the Powerball than finding a pic of a 1966 6th Series sheet, the others are on this great site. https://mrpekrul.wixsite.com/narcissism/1966

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

There is a better chance of hitting the Powerball than finding a pic of a 1966 6th Series sheet, the others are on this great site. https://mrpekrul.wixsite.com/narcissism/1966

Many thanks for the mention, Cliff!

I would like to pose this question to the group:

On a 264-card slit there are 24 rows of 11 cards.

In a 66 card series, each card is printed 4x. In a 132-card series, each is printed 2x. If there are 88 cards, each is printed 3x.

After that, some difference in numbers is forced.

In a 77-card series, 44 are printed 3x and 33 are printed 4x.
In a 99-card series, 66 are printed 3x and 33 are printed 2x.
For a 110-card series, 66 are 2x and 44 are 3x.

In the case of a 99-card series, those 33 2x cards rightfully can be call "SPs" as they are printed fewer times than the majority of cards in the series.

What about 77 and 110 card series? The majority of cards in each series are printed fewer times than a minority, yet the majority are referred to as "SPs". Take the Grant Jackson hi-number (591) from 1966 - it is one of 44 cards printed 3x across the 264-card full sheet. A lesser number of cards, 33 , are printed 4x. Yet we call Jackson's card, and the other 43 in the majority, SPs. Short printed relative to what?

I maintain that we should actually refer to the 33 as over-prints. Look at it this way - each of the 77 cards is printed 3 times. But 3 rows are printed an additional time to fill out the sheet. If 66 cards were printed 3x and 11 were 4x, would we still call the 66 "SPs"?

By this was of thinking, only a 99-card series would result in true SPs, and, at least from 1966 onward, only one series is 99 cards - 1969, series 4.

I understand that the definition of SPs is baked into the hobby, so tilting at this particular windmill is pointless. But, if it were up to me, I'd change the price guides. If, say, the 1966 hi-series had commons priced at $15 with SPs at $30 (making this up), I would change it so that commons were simply priced at $30 and "OPs" - over-prints - were $15.

Thoughts?

[obcbeatle]

Thanks for all the replies , and what a great website , now it is all starting to make sense ! I'm such a visual learner , w/o photos my eyes start to glaze over I really appreciate the work you all have put in and shared about this stuff. Thank you!

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Many thanks for the mention, Cliff!

I would like to pose this question to the group:

On a 264-card slit there are 24 rows of 11 cards.

In a 66 card series, each card is printed 4x. In a 132-card series, each is printed 2x. If there are 88 cards, each is printed 3x.

After that, some difference in numbers is forced.

In a 77-card series, 44 are printed 3x and 33 are printed 4x.
In a 99-card series, 66 are printed 3x and 33 are printed 2x.
For a 110-card series, 66 are 2x and 44 are 3x.

In the case of a 99-card series, those 33 2x cards rightfully can be call "SPs" as they are printed fewer times than the majority of cards in the series.

What about 77 and 110 card series? The majority of cards in each series are printed fewer times than a minority, yet the majority are referred to as "SPs". Take the Grant Jackson hi-number (591) from 1966 - it is one of 44 cards printed 3x across the 264-card full sheet. A lesser number of cards, 33 , are printed 4x. Yet we call Jackson's card, and the other 43 in the majority, SPs. Short printed relative to what?

I maintain that we should actually refer to the 33 as over-prints. Look at it this way - each of the 77 cards is printed 3 times. But 3 rows are printed an additional time to fill out the sheet. If 66 cards were printed 3x and 11 were 4x, would we still call the 66 "SPs"?

By this was of thinking, only a 99-card series would result in true SPs, and, at least from 1966 onward, only one series is 99 cards - 1969, series 4.

I understand that the definition of SPs is baked into the hobby, so tilting at this particular windmill is pointless. But, if it were up to me, I'd change the price guides. If, say, the 1966 hi-series had commons priced at $15 with SPs at $30 (making this up), I would change it so that commons were simply priced at $30 and "OPs" - over-prints - were $15.

Thoughts?

This pretty much hits the nail on its head but I expect it's a tall hill to climb to change the mentality.