1989 Fleer Wade Boggs No Dot error

[jacksoncoupage]

I just sorted through 8 1989 Fleer factory sets and 1/8 had the no-mark variation. Also worth noting that the same set had a Phil Bradley without the little pink curl on front (by Fleer, like Randy's card), while the other 7 had the curl/mark.

I'd previously been under the impression that these were only found in wax.

Edit: For anyone curious:

-No treadway target
-No checklist w/ positions
-No notable anything else

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

I just sorted through 8 1989 Fleer factory sets and 1/8 had the no-mark variation. Also worth noting that the same set had a Phil Bradley without the little pink curl on front (by Fleer, like Randy's card), while the other 7 had the curl/mark.

I'd previously been under the impression that these were only found in wax.

Edit: For anyone curious:

-No treadway target
-No checklist w/ positions
-No notable anything else

Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

The one good thing about Covid was it brought out a few new to the hobby junk wax variations. It also made a few example that used to be silly rare fairly common.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

The one good thing about Covid was it brought out a few new to the hobby junk wax variations. It also made a few example that used to be silly rare fairly common.

This is very hard to believe but I guess with 1989 Fleer, you never really know. Back is 2005-2006, I opened dozens of factory sets before I understood the ins and outs of production over a hobby season. There was absolutely nothing interesting whatsoever in any of those so I quit bothering with them. Then a few years ago a guy told me about Treadways being in some factory sets and until I recently found 10 (took 8) at $5/ea in a Goodwill, I hadn't bothered with them and only mildly regret the $40 sunk.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

This is very hard to believe but I guess with 1989 Fleer, you never really know. Back is 2005-2006, I opened dozens of factory sets before I understood the ins and outs of production over a hobby season. There was absolutely nothing interesting whatsoever in any of those so I quit bothering with them. Then a few years ago a guy told me about Treadways being in some factory sets and until I recently found 10 (took 8) at $5/ea in a Goodwill, I hadn't bothered with them and only mildly regret the $40 sunk.

I was very leery of his story also. He told Jon that runs the Ripken site the same story. At the same time he was also selling several very obviously fake white out Ripken versions. The guys name is Edward and lives in Los Angeles.

[Aug06]

After reading all about this card I went and someone just happen to post one without the black variation for $1.99 buy it now on ebay. Bought it just to add to my collection. I checked and i found about 6 in my collection but all had the little black mark.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I was very leery of his story also. He told Jon that runs the Ripken site the same story. At the same time he was also selling several very obviously fake white out Ripken versions. The guys name is Edward and lives in Los Angeles.

Up until what he said to you, I was under the impression that it was basically codified, ironclad fact that no interesting Ripkens made it into factory sets. Same with Randy.

If he was pushing fake whiteout cards, maybe he didn't realize that the Ripken collectors had all but solidified it as fact that they never made it into sets.

[Athos01]

Hey guys,
I believe that Ripken white scribbles can be found in factory sets. Old magazines with interviews with Fleer management indicated that factory sets contained an erased version, aka white scribbles. I have also found a few FF's in factory sets. It is possible. I read that Fleer had workers replace FF's in early printed factory sets with corrected versions, but obviously some slipped past.

[bnorth]

I found one never searched set and went through it. All corrected with Boggs having the dot. The Guillermo Hernandez was the full moose head print error. The Bill Ripken was the BB jagged line version.

[jp1216]

Originally Posted by Athos01

Hey guys,
I believe that Ripken white scribbles can be found in factory sets. Old magazines with interviews with Fleer management indicated that factory sets contained an erased version, aka white scribbles. I have also found a few FF's in factory sets. It is possible. I read that Fleer had workers replace FF's in early printed factory sets with corrected versions, but obviously some slipped past.

There is a Chicago Tribune article from 1989-90 mentioning other versions being pulled from factory sets.

Originally Posted by bnorth

Nice, thanks for the info. I have a couple factory sets I picked up a while back. I will have to look at them. I have also had a guy selling a few of the semi rare white scribble Bill Ripken cards say he found them in factory sets.

That seller opened a small 4 set factory case. All four had the White Scribble. I convinced him to get them graded by PSA. Three came back with 9s and the other was a 10. He sold the 10 for over $1000 - at the time a record price. He sent me one of the 9s - for free.