Memory Lane sold cards they didn't have per SCD

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

How drunk do I need to be to read this thing from start to finish in one sitting?

Extremely would be a good start.

[tjisonline]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

How drunk do I need to be to read this thing from start to finish in one sitting?

If you browse past 2-3 users on some pages, pretty fast read.

[theshowandme]

328 replies in 36 hours is impressive

[drazz5]

I started to try to read through the last 2 pages of posts to catch myself up on this thread, but then I realized we’re talking about baseball cards and it never needs to get this serious.

Note to self, don’t mail cards to best western.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by drazz5

I started to try to read through the last 2 pages of posts to catch myself up on this thread, but then I realized we’re talking about baseball cards and it never needs to get this serious.

Note to self, don’t mail cards to best western.

We exited the arguing phase and are now singing kumbaya around the campfire together, united again.

[Gorditadogg]

So, do you think the thief may have stolen exactly 54 lots as some sort of tribute to this forum? I mean, he has apparently netted 54 baseball cards.

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[Gorditadogg]

So, do you think the thief may have stolen exactly 54 lots as some sort of tribute to this forum? I mean, he has apparently netted 54 baseball cards.

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[4815162342]

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Hoping the 14 Matty was recovered as well!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Hoping the 14 Matty was recovered as well!

The article said the two missing cards had a value of $90,000, the Matty went for $145,000 so I think he's safe.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

The article said the two missing cards had a value of $90,000, the Matty went for $145,000 so I think he's safe.

Also pretty sure the culprit will do everything he can to get the location of those two cards to the police. Anything to mitigate at this point.

[rand1com]

For the most part, the final resolution is about the best that could have been hoped for.

The consignors get the value they deserved, the bidders get the cards they wanted at the price they were willing to pay, the auction house gets their commission, and most importantly, the thief will likely spend some significant time in jail.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by rand1com

For the most part, the final resolution is about the best that could have been hoped for.

The consignors get the value they deserved, the bidders get the cards they wanted at the price they were willing to pay, the auction house gets their commission, and most importantly, the thief will likely spend some significant time in jail.

The thief will probably get more followers on social media

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

That is freaking awesome. Great news!!
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[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Leon

That is freaking awesome. Great news!!
.

Many thanks, Leon.

[parkplace33]

Glad to hear this story has a happy ending.

I guess we will find this perp got a hold of the package.

[Exhibitman]

Thankfully, those landmark cards are not lost to the hobby; that would have been a shame.

[notfast]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

Curious if you still are paying the BP.

[babraham]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

That's great news!
That was my biggest concern, that the thief would have dumped the cards when he felt the police closing in.

[4815162342]

Update: https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)


PSA 5 1909 T204 Ramly Walter Johnson (PSA Cert #90586922)


Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Update: https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)


PSA 5 1909 T204 Ramly Walter Johnson (PSA Cert #90586922)


Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.

Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There was a time grading was not tethered to the ultramodern perfect (or altered) card and you didn't need to alter a vintage card to get an 8.

[brianp-beme]

Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

Brian

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

Brian

I'd be glum too, if I'd just lost my job at a prestigious Best Western Plus.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

Brian

Could anyone make an appropriate baseball card for this turd? Do I hear an Elf giggling in the bullrushes.

[mannequin1]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.

I'd say today, the Williams might get a NM 7 and the Johnson a 4 VG-EX at best.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by mannequin1

I'd say today, the Williams might get a NM 7 and the Johnson a 4 VG-EX at best.

Not to beat them up because those are examples of grading at that time but the Williams might be a 6 today and yeah the Johnson is closer to VG and that VG-EX.

[JollyElm]

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[mannequin1]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Not to beat them up because those are examples of grading at that time but the Williams might be a 6 today and yeah the Johnson is closer to VG and that VG-EX.

Maybe that's what they would get today but they've become way too harsh. They overgraded years ago and now they undergrade so my assessments are right in the middle.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.

Apparently, Memory Lane likes to "freshen up" the old slabs for their auctions too. I had to leave one of my winning cards behind because they told me they "got a bad batch of slabs". The card looked worse than it did in the scans (of course you know that from experience) as the "baggie" surround looks like it was baked at 1000 degrees and the back of the case had about 50 stress cracks in it as well. Bad batch, LOL. They said they have a standing appointment with PSA and that it will get shipped back to me in a couple of weeks. . irvine is right around the corner. I'm sure it will look much better?

There is ZERO chance of that happening as Monday is a Holiday,

[BrooksRobinson]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Update: https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)

Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.

Gulp, I bid on that Ted Williams but did not win. I feel bad for the sellers and the ones trying to buy the cards. That said, they delivered my '52 Topps Mays in a nice wooden case. If I could only get their logo off the case it would be great.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by brooksrobinson

gulp, i bid on that ted williams but did not win. I feel bad for the sellers and the ones trying to buy the cards. That said, they delivered my '52 topps mays in a nice wooden case. if i could only get their logo off the case it would be great.

lol

[mkskillz013]

It appears some (all?) of the cert numbers have been deactivated on the PSA registry. Anyone have experience with what may happen next in that regard?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by mkskillz013

It appears some (all?) of the cert numbers have been deactivated on the PSA registry. Anyone have experience with what may happen next in that regard?

What's your best guess?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by mkskillz013

It appears some (all?) of the cert numbers have been deactivated on the PSA registry. Anyone have experience with what may happen next in that regard?

If you are referring to the 54 cards that had been stolen and now recovered, I think it would be obvious that PSA would activate the certs again.

[Republicaninmass]

We have an opinion thread, it's about that kickers speech..

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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

We have an opinion thread, it's about that kickers speech..

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I looked but did not touch.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I looked but did not touch.

They form their own opinions based on my username. I just sit in my high castle and laugh at the plebes

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[theshowandme]

Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

This article covers it pretty well. You'll just miss out on all the arguing and opinions about what was done and what should have been done.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

• There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
• There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
• Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
• A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
• At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
• Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
• 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
• An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
• That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Eric72

• There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
• There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
• Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
• A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
• At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
• Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
• 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
• An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
• That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

Well done!

[parkplace33]

For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.

I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.
I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.

At least two, posts #29 and #931.

[FrankWakefield]

+1 Ericl
Well summarized, Eric. That's about right.


Within about a year or so after I got out of law school, or about 37 years ago, a question arose at the law firm about whether or not it would be a conflict of interest to accept a new client, due to already representing a similar client. I stayed quiet, my little opinion, had I had one, was about worthless. Some rather smart lawyers took turns talking, explaining various nuances of the ethics rules. Finally, this older lawyer who had grown up in a small rural county, and who up until now had been silent, leaned forward, cleared his throat, and said something to the effect of, "all I know is if you can't explain to the previous client why you did or didn't do something in about one sentence, then you probably shouldn't have done it."

A fellow shouldn't sell something he doesn't have.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Eric72

• There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
• There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
• Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
• A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
• At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
• Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
• 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
• An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
• That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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And in turn, an expectancy that there was a good possibility of recovery may have informed ML's decision to continue the auction. Just speculating, but common sense would suggest there weren't that many suspects to begin with and they may well have had leads they were pursuing. You can't just go around kicking down people's doors.

[4815162342]

Update: Man Accused of Stealing $2.1 Million in Cards in Court; 2nd Arrest ‘Expected’

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-jacob-paxton/

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Update: Man Accused of Stealing $2.1 Million in Cards in Court; 2nd Arrest ‘Expected’

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-jacob-paxton/

In life, we sometimes come to a proverbial fork in the road, when the next decision we make sends our life down a particular path.

Despite a no questions asked reward being offered, the cards remained missing. Paxton is now facing a charge that could result in a lengthy jail sentence.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mark17

In life, we sometimes come to a proverbial fork in the road, when the next decision we make sends our life down a particular path.

Despite a no questions asked reward being offered, the cards remained missing. Paxton is now facing a charge that could result in a lengthy jail sentence.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.