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Old 03-27-2024, 04:00 PM
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Sports are very physical. Other things like "anticipation" and "intelligence" can help one high level player over another high level player. There is an extremely obvious reason the NBA is not filled with "geniuses" who cannot physically compete with the rest of the players - because it is a very physical sport. The physical is a prerequisite. If I dedicated my entire life to a sport and became #1 in preparation for that sport, I still wouldn't make it because I do not have the prerequisite.

What people want to find and consider virtuously politically correct and is actually true are not the same thing. Women athletes lose to men far below their 'level' whenever it is tried, for the obvious physical reasons and the differences between men and women. Women are different. They are built different. Both genders have plusses and minuses compared to the other. It is simply reality. A woman has not and will not seriously compete in a very physical high-level sporting realm whether we like that or not.

Likely the most astonishing (and underappreciated) female athlete the world has ever known, Katie Ledecky, is still at her absolute peak (a record shattering, truly staggering, insane 1500) 6 percent or so slower than the top male. And the gap of course gets much much bigger as you move to sports with contact.
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Likely the most astonishing (and underappreciated) female athlete the world has ever known, Katie Ledecky, is still at her absolute peak (a record shattering, truly staggering, insane 1500) 6 percent or so slower than the top male. And the gap of course gets much much bigger as you move to sports with contact.
Just to compare strength from a sport I like. Inez Carrasquillo has the current log lift world record. It is 321 pounds. Inez is a beast at a real 6'1" and 235 pounds. She is also on ALL the super creatine. CrossFit has used a log in their events before. The 5'8" 180 pound men with very little practice are pressing the same weight.
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Just to compare strength from a sport I like. Inez Carrasquillo has the current log lift world record. It is 321 pounds. Inez is a beast at a real 6'1" and 235 pounds. She is also on ALL the super creatine. CrossFit has used a log in their events before. The 5'8" 180 pound men with very little practice are pressing the same weight.
Looks like the men's record is 510 pounds so significantly higher.
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Bet she would be a beast against the Washington Generals.
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Almost on cue....See below.

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In cycling a couple world records have been held by women, not in a division, but outright.

Beryl Burton - in 1967, she set a new 12-hour time trial record of 277.25 miles– a mark that surpassed the men's record of the time by 0.73 miles and was not superseded by a man until 1969. While setting the record, she caught and passed Mike McNamara who was on his way to setting the men's record at 276.52 miles and winning that year's men's British Best All-Rounder. She is reputed to have given him a liquorice allsort as she passed him.

The current motorpaced record is held by a woman who also just helped set a new record in a streamlined bike. (several, mostly womens, but fastest 4 wheeler ever. ) all womens team, and oh yeah, they're all sort of old.

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I would take her over many D1 men.

Could she defend? Not very well. Plenty of men cannot defend.

Could she consistently score? Absolutely, from long range at that. Plenty of men cannot consistently score.

Clearly, if size and strength are the only attributes you consider important to basketball ability, she could not play against men.

But, I bet on a lower level D1 men's team she would consistently score in double figures and she would beat many of them one on one.

I don't particularly like her and the fact that she played 50 more games than Pete Maravich to overtake his scoring record clearly proves who the actual all time collegiate scorer is.

However, to claim that she could not make a D1 men's team at the lower echelon of the classification if she wanted to is a joke. She would not be a super star but she could contribute off the bench.

If nothing else, her 88% free throw % would make her the designated technical foul shooter on almost every team in D1.
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