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[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

+1
but the other option is that tearing down statues has become the norm in the last 10 years.

I’m in Richmond, Va. where apparently we like to rip down statues of Confederate soldiers and Christopher Columbus. So sad that we just still can’t get along.

I weep for the future.

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

So sad that we just still can’t get along.

The vast majority of everyone gets along just fine. There's other factors at play.

[bandrus1]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

The vast majority of everyone gets along just fine. There's other factors at play.

This is the answer.... The longer we allow the narrative the fringes are everyone the longer we will be at a loss

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

The vast majority of everyone gets along just fine. There's other factors at play.

There’s no doubt that the vast majority of people get along just fine. My comment was directed more towards the small groups who are still hanging on to hate and division. They’re the ones who just need to let shit go and get along with everyone else. Unfortunately, they’re the ones that get all the press.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

There’s no doubt that the vast majority of people get along just fine. My comment was directed more towards the small groups who are still hanging on to hate and division. They’re the ones who just need to let shit go and get along with everyone else. Unfortunately, they’re the ones that get all the press.

Have you ever been on social media? Or recently tried discussing current events with a stranger? Hate and division are widespread in this country right now, largely because of how lucrative it is and how easily manipulated many people are.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Have you ever been on social media? Or recently tried discussing current events with a stranger? Hate and division are widespread in this country right now, largely because of how lucrative it is and how easily manipulated many people are.

I blame a certain divisive political party for that nonsense.

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I blame a certain divisive political party for that nonsense.

And the mainstream media who love to keep us divided (on purpose).

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

And the mainstream media who love to keep us divided (on purpose).

Agreed 110%

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

There’s no doubt that the vast majority of people get along just fine. My comment was directed more towards the small groups who are still hanging on to hate and division. They’re the ones who just need to let shit go and get along with everyone else. Unfortunately, they’re the ones that get all the press.

Maybe don't invoke Rodney King next time.

It is satisfying to see you try and deflect.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Maybe don't invoke Rodney King next time.

It is satisfying to see you try and deflect.

No one is invoking Rodney King, so I’m not even sure where you got that from and I’m certainly not deflecting. My point is the same. There are groups here in Richmond that seem to want to remember the Civil War and still try to fight it. I see it every day. There’s also groups who want to riot and tear down statues instead of doing things the proper way. Those are the groups at odds with each other, and the rest of us are just caught in the middle.

[jefferyepayne]

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

Well said.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

Agreed. Generalizing and finger pointing have polarized the country. Whereas a small percentage, the outliers, seem to garner the most attention and people are "lumped" Into groups


The idiots tried to melt it in a trash can. Regardless of race creed or religion. They are idiots! Highly doubt it was race motivated. Although either side can likely find a ulterior motive once the person are caught. I won't pontificate on where the dividing line will be based on perps ethnic demographic

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

No one is invoking Rodney King, so I’m not even sure where you got that from and I’m certainly not deflecting. My point is the same. There are groups here in Richmond that seem to want to remember the Civil War and still try to fight it. I see it every day. There’s also groups who want to riot and tear down statues instead of doing things the proper way. Those are the groups at odds with each other, and the rest of us are just caught in the middle.

There are pro-Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthi riots all over cities in America right now. There are Michigan religious leaders praising the Oct 7 terror attacks in Israel. Bridges, train stations and airports in NYC have been shut down by protesters calling for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel and America. I'm fully armed walking to my office now, as there have been violent protests right in front of my building. If any of the protesters believed I was Jewish I'd be attacked in a second.

You'll excuse me if I find this more concerning than a fucking statue that was stolen, the political motive behind it still unknown. I can promise you that the people calling for my head outside my office last week were not Republicans. The country is divided, is my point, and the Jackie Robinson statue being stolen is not the best example of it.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by calvindog

There are pro-Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthi riots all over cities in America right now. There are Michigan religious leaders praising the Oct 7 terror attacks in Israel. Bridges, train stations and airports in NYC have been shut down by protesters calling for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel and America. I'm fully armed walking to my office now, as there have been violent protests right in front of my building. If any of the protesters believed I was Jewish I'd be attacked in a second.

You'll excuse me if I find this more concerning than a fucking statue that was stolen, the political motive behind it still unknown. I can promise you that the people calling for my head outside my office last week were not Republicans. The country is divided, is my point, and the Jackie Robinson statue being stolen is not the best example of it.

Well, this thread has officially gone off the rails.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I’m in Richmond, Va. where apparently we like to rip down statues of Confederate soldiers and Christopher Columbus. So sad that we just still can’t get along.

I weep for the future.

I don't. Being around young people gives me great hope for the future (I won't be here for). They have more respect for other people and the Earth than prior generations ever did. By a lot.

Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone. Like the people on school boards in Florida who don't want kids taught the horrific abuse the Robinsons and other blacks faced in Florida. Would be "woke" or "anti-white" or something.

Refusing to educate kids on what Jackie and others endured is a lot worse crime than cutting down a statue.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I don't. Being around young people gives me great hope for the future (I won't be here for). They have more respect for other people and the Earth than prior generations ever did. By a lot.

Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone. Like the people on school boards in Florida who don't want kids taught the horrific abuse the Robinsons and other blacks faced in Florida. Would be "woke" or "anti-white" or something.

Refusing to educate kids on what Jackie and others endured is a lot worse crime than cutting down a statue.

Well said!

[particra17]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Well said!

100 percent

[particra17]

There a thousand statues that can be stolen and melted down/sold for scrap. There’s only one reason why you cut down and steal a Jackie Robinson statue: you are a scum racist.

[Bobbycee]

Originally Posted by particra17

There a thousand statues that can be stolen and melted down/sold for scrap. There’s only one reason why you cut down and steal a Jackie Robinson statue: you are a scum racist.

Sounds like you know without a doubt who cut down the statue. You're right about them being scumbags. How do you know they're racist? They could be a group of blacks that did this.

[G1911]

Lots of hot takes already about a crime without any actual evidence yet that it has any political utility for either side. A good rule of thumb is that whoever argues for huge swaths of the population to be made "out of the way and gone" is in the wrong. While it certainly makes getting ones agenda through easier if dissidents are eliminated, it should raise obvious moral issues and huge red flags. I agree with whoever isn't proposing that everyone who disagrees with them be made "gone"

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by particra17

There a thousand statues that can be stolen and melted down/sold for scrap. There’s only one reason why you cut down and steal a Jackie Robinson statue: you are a scum racist.

Not really the first thing I think of when a statue is stolen. It could be my naivety, regardless of the nature of the statue itself. Everything has to be polarized

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I don't. Being around young people gives me great hope for the future (I won't be here for). They have more respect for other people and the Earth than prior generations ever did. By a lot.

Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone. Like the people on school boards in Florida who don't want kids taught the horrific abuse the Robinsons and other blacks faced in Florida. Would be "woke" or "anti-white" or something.

Refusing to educate kids on what Jackie and others endured is a lot worse crime than cutting down a statue.

+1 on every word of this. Well said, and true.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

MLB has stepped in and is going to replace the statue.

[Exhibitman]

I blame stupid people. In general. For everything.



"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."



"These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

MLB has stepped in and is going to replace the statue.

That's great. So now what happens to the $150K+ in donations that were raised already?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

That's great. So now what happens to the $150K+ in donations that were raised already?

I am sure someone already had plans for it and it will go to a great cause.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure someone already had plans for it and it will go to a great cause.

I thought money raised through GoFundMe had to be used for the purpose stated or had to be refunded. Can it be used for something else if the stated reason was for replacing the statue?

[kcohen]

“Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone.”

Right! Get rid of anyone whose worldview differs from yours. With all due respect, it’s such narrow-minded statements that epitomize our societal rot.