Was PUD GALVIN The First Doper?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

We don't think this has to do with a ballpark built for Aaron to hit as many homers as possible?

The source for Aaron's greenies is his own autobiography where he said he tried them once in 1968, felt like it was going to give him a heart attack, and it was "a stupid thing to do." The book was published long before the steroid scandal and anyone cared.

Does anyone have 1) evidence greenies produce more home runs and, 2) that Aaron was a consistent and regular user of them during his Atlanta years? I'd love to see this evidence used to make the claims, as I'm not familiar with it.

There is no way to have evidence.

As far as the mostly BS confessions PED users make for their use, they are hilariously fantasy land. As an example older bodybuilders like Arnold have pretty much all admitted to their PED use. They all also admit to a dose that is so small it is literally the same as a current TRT dose. It's like asking the drunk driver how many drinks he has had and expecting a honest answer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

On a tangent, one of the greatest moments in sports history IMO was when Shirley Babashoff and the US 4x100 relay team beat Kornelia Ender and the East German PED team.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

There is no way to have evidence.

As far as the mostly BS confessions PED users make for their use, they are hilariously fantasy land. As an example older bodybuilders like Arnold have pretty much all admitted to their PED use. They all also admit to a dose that is so small it is literally the same as a current TRT dose. It's like asking the drunk driver how many drinks he has had and expecting a honest answer.

The first statement is untrue. It is, very very obviously, possible to have evidence.

People lie. That does not mean any statement you don't like is a lie. A rational person would use evidence. You're drunk driver would be shown wrong by evidence, not an assumption he is lying (many people truly have had 0 drinks when asked by a cop if they have been drinking during a stop) because that is what you want the case to be.