Where is the market?...is a "crash" coming

[Pato15]

Originally Posted by RCFire82

I've seen it with the others...but Reggie Jackson?

Don't be silly. They're obviously talking about Roy Lee Jackson

[BabyRuth]

Just some food for thought:

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards


Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make!!!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Just some food for thought:

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards


Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make!!!

Or maybe the first sale wasn't completed and so the price was spurious, and the second sale is the actual market price.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Or maybe the first sale wasn't completed and so the price was spurious, and the second sale is the actual market price.

Could be!

Of course, it seems like people are willing to accept high sales as real when they want to suggest that the market is going up. When it’s coming back down, then the high sale was never real, so it should be ignored!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Could be!

Of course, it seems like people are willing to accept high sales as real when they want to suggest that the market is going up. When it’s coming back down, then the high sale was never real, so it should be ignored!

Yep. Spin the data to fit the thesis.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yep. Spin the data to fit the thesis.

I thought Net54 was a "no spin zone" !!!

[Johnny630]

[QUOTE=Aquarian Sports Cards;2394538]Or maybe the first sale wasn't completed and so the price was spurious, and the second sale is the actual market price.[/QUOTE

BINGO

[cornhusker]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Just some food for thought:

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards


Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make!!!

3 month diff and at least 1 less serious bidder

[BabyRuth]

Just some food for thought:

Found another data point

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards

Spring 2018 REA Lot#1651 sold for $39,000

Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make and what a difference 5 years make!!!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Just some food for thought:

Found another data point

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards

Spring 2018 REA Lot#1651 sold for $39,000

Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make and what a difference 5 years make!!!

Yeah...

Appreciate the added data point, because it helps to suggest that maybe the 2023 sale wasn't a fake sale. Unless we're going to argue that the 2018 sale was also fake. I suppose as long as there can be 1 fake sale, then there can be multiple fake sales. Hell, they might all be fake sales. Aside from my own purchases, I suppose it's hard to really know for sure about anything else.

At the same time, even assuming all of these are good sales, I wouldn't read too much into these data points. This is just too much of a specialty item. A bidder or two can make a big difference, depending on whether they're paying attention, and whether they're in or out of the market at the moment for this piece.