Trivia: Cy Young Award winners in both Leagues

[G1911]

Marichal is probably the best pitcher to never win a Cy Young award or to be the best pitcher in his league for a season (though he is right there in 1969). I can't think of anyone better.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by G1911

Marichal is probably the best pitcher to never win a Cy Young award or to be the best pitcher in his league for a season (though he is right there in 1969). I can't think of anyone better.

Nolan Ryan never won a Cy Young. Snubbed in 1973.

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[G1911]

Originally Posted by todeen

Nolan Ryan never won a Cy Young. Snubbed in 1973.

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I'd put him third in 1973. But I think he was the best pitcher in the league in 1981. Only knock on him that year is his innings count, but he was by far the best starter at not giving up runs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Marichal is probably the best pitcher to never win a Cy Young award or to be the best pitcher in his league for a season (though he is right there in 1969). I can't think of anyone better.

You could argue Mussina I think career wise, or Schilling.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You could argue Mussina I think career wise, or Schilling.

Schilling finished 2nd three times, and each time deserved to be second. Those are good ones.

[TUM301]

Think I read somewhere that Perry got 200+ of his wins after the age of 30, he sure knew his craft.

[Seven]

Randy Johnson? I know he had some great seasons with Seattle. I know for a fact Roger Clemens did it too.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Seven

Randy Johnson? I know he had some great seasons with Seattle. I know for a fact Roger Clemens did it too.

See posts #5 and #7 for answers

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Think I read somewhere that Perry got 200+ of his wins after the age of 30, he sure knew his craft.

Phil Niekro had 31 wins as of his 30th birthday.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Phil Niekro had 31 wins as of his 30th birthday.

So many of the great pitchers did so well after they turned 30. Below are career wins leaders after (and including) age 30.

1) Cy Young (317)
2. Phil Niekro (287)
3. Warren Spahn (277)
4. Gaylord Perry (238)
5. Randy Johnson (235)
6. Jamie Moyer (235)
7. Early Wynn (217)
8. Eddie Plank (216)
9. "Pete" Alexander (213)
10. Lefty Grove (213)

Meanwhile, only 5 pitchers that were active last year have 200 wins or more in their entire career, and most will retire soon or already did in the case of Wainwright:

1) Verlander (257)
2) Greinke (225)
3) Scherzer (214)
4) Kershaw (210)
5) Wainwright (200)

6th on the active list Cole with only 145 career wins.

So Cy Young, Neikro, and Spahn may have more career wins after turning 30 than anyone else gets again in their career. I hope that turns out not to be the case.

[packs]

Hoyt Wilhelm appeared in 205 games from age 45 to 49.