Ebay Authentication - It Gets Personal

[Directly]

Originally Posted by bk400

Not sure if relevant, but I've had two relatively high end cards get lost or stolen at the eBay international shipping hub within the past 3 months. Situation where the cards were shown to have arrived at the shipping hub, but then there is no update on the order for something like 10 days or 2 weeks. And then eBay waits until the day of expected delivery to refund your money.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some insiders at eBay's internal waystation points stealing higher end cards.

In the Registered USPS system every person that touches and handles the package has to sign off-- if this was the case there will be a paper trail. Did the cards show arriving to the authenticator, then missing after that?

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Directly

In the Registered USPS system every person that touches and handles the package has to sign off-- if this was the case there will be a paper trail. Did the cards show arriving to the authenticator, then missing after that?

To be clear, my cards went missing at the eBay international shipping hub in Illinois, not at the authenticator. But I thought the same principles might apply.

Yes, the cards were tracked to the shipping hub -- and then no more.

[x2drich2000]

Is this the card? I couldn't find a series of 80 sold by Rick. If this is the card, I can't tell if the scratch is on the case or the card. Either way though, I can understand why they would say the card doesn't match the description of a BVG 4 with both the staining and scratch. Now whether they should reject the card in this situation or not can be debated.

[ullmandds]

the plot thickens. DJ...to me the scratch is ON the card. So the card is overgraded. I thought the process was just an authenticity check...not a grade check?

here's a cobby cousin.

[ncinin]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

the plot thickens. DJ...to me the scratch is ON the card. So the card is overgraded. I thought the process was just an authenticity check...not a grade check?

here's a cobby cousin.

It is not a scratch on the card. A portion of the cards printed had some debris or something on the printing plate and leaves some areas of no print. I have atleast one if not two E121 series of 120 with the same exact appearance of a scratch.

If you would look at VCP images there some examples as well, in the exact same place. It is not a scratch on the card but can appear that way to an untrained eye.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by ncinin

It is not a scratch on the card. A portion of the cards printed had some debris or something on the printing plate and leaves some areas of no print. I have atleast one if not two E121 series of 120 with the same exact appearance of a scratch.

If you would look at VCP images there some examples as well, in the exact same place. It is not a scratch on the card but can appear that way to an untrained eye.

i stand corrected...an unsightly print defect then.

[Yoda]

Ebay closed my case today and only stated that the item didn't match description or player misidentified. Since my dear card has been returned to the consignor, I guess I am something out of luck.
As the card was slabbed and valued over $500, shouldn't it have gone to PSA? As someone suggested, maybe they kicked it out because of the scratched holder or stain on the card or just didn't like the BVG slab.
Rick did actually respond (minor miracle) and just repeated back what Ebay said.
If I had bought at a show, it would have been a done deal.
Oh, the perils of dealing with Ebay.
Thanks to everyone on the Board for their support about this minor tragedy.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i stand corrected...an unsightly print defect then.

+1. I have seen it on a high grade E121 Cobb that's been on ebay for a while.
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