Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Here is the painted one, that me, Ooo-ribay, and I'm sure several others would love to find. I think this Dodgers one may be the same maker. Probably Trench, because of what Oooribay calls the "cartoon" font for "Giants" that shows up on a few other Giants pennants.

Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

Domer - unless I’m misunderstanding post #8091, that polychromatic Giants might be a mini(?).

[bocca001]

I've had that multichrome Giants pic saved for some time. Never thought it was less than full size, but maybe? It does have a black spine, which is different that all of the other Giants copies I've seen. Mark- any change you remember if the string was black? And how small (about) were the minis?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I've had that multichrome Giants pic saved for some time. Never thought it was less than full size, but maybe? It does have a black spine, which is different that all of the other Giants copies I've seen. Mark- any change you remember if the string was black? And how small (about) were the minis?

I may be a dope and/or misunderstanding, but post #8091 makes it sound like the Dodgers and Giants, above, were mini’s. That said, you don’t usually see that much detail on a mini.

Marc - can you find that pennant again on Worthpoint and see if the description references the size?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I may be a dope and/or misunderstanding, but post #8091 makes it sound like the Dodgers and Giants, above, were mini’s. That said, you don’t usually see that much detail on a mini.

Marc - can you find that pennant again on Worthpoint and see if the description references the size?

OK.... let me clarify. The 2 "Stadium Pennant" examples Marc showed (Giants and Dodgers) are both FULL sized pennants. But it was asked whether these two were possibly from the same maker. Here is my (hopefully) clearer reply...

I formerly had a pennant string of 8 minis (you've all seen these pennant strings that include minis of each team in the league.... right?) Anyway, the pennants on the string included mini versions of the Giants and Dodgers Pennants Marc had pictured. This led to 2 obvious conclusions...

1. They (both the minis and full size) are from the same maker
2. The Giants and Dodgers pennants were produced during the same time frame.

Hope this clarifies it.... The pennants Marc showed are all FULL SIZED.

[perezfan]

Definitely both are Trench.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

OK.... let me clarify. The 2 "Stadium Pennant" examples Marc showed (Giants and Dodgers) are both FULL sized pennants. But it was asked whether these two were possibly from the same maker. Here is my (hopefully) clearer reply...

I formerly had a pennant string of 8 minis (you've all seen these pennant strings that include minis of each team in the league.... right?) Anyway, the pennants on the string included mini versions of the Giants and Dodgers Pennants Marc had pictured. This led to 2 obvious conclusions...

1. They (both the minis and full size) are from the same maker
2. The Giants and Dodgers pennants were produced during the same time frame.

Hope this clarifies it.... The pennants Marc showed are all FULL SIZED.

Gotcha.

[Vintagedeputy]

Sorry for the poor photo, but I was too excited not to post right away. This rare beauty finally showed up today. It’s got some thumbtack holes on the spine and it’s missing a tassel but the graphic is spectacular.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

This wouldn’t merely be a different artist, but also the construction is very different. (The spine width, tassels, etc.) … night and day different from the known Trench L.A. Coliseum pennant from this period. Like Arnold and Danny DeVito in Twins …

[Domer05]

I really think they used a different artist. The normal Trench stadium pennant artwork by the artist we're most familiar with illustrated each ballpark full of fans. These renderings of the Coliseum and Seals Stadium are empty.

But, the batter depicted on these two anomalies was re-used on other Trench pennants, so I have no doubt these are by Trench.

Here's a ca. 1960 photo of a vendor selling pennants outside the Coliseum. You can see the red-variant prominently displayed, along with the more traditional blue one (depicting a full Coliseum), along with other known Trench-made pennants, like that Pirates one. Presumably, this vendor bought all his pennants from the same company ... so, that would be Trench.

[bocca001]

Sorry, Rob, full size.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ants-413000922