Most expensive vintage pack opened on video?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by conor912

What I have never understood is why vintage packs sell for a price that seems to assume that the most expensive card in the set is in that pack.

But what if there’s 2 or 3 of the most expensive card in the pack!!!

[drcy]

Unopened packs and boxes are things in and of themselves. Different from just the sum of the cards inside.

[glynparson]

More than mantle would sell for a hundred k if you pull a 9 or 10 so this comment about needing to pull the best card is not accurate. People on here aren’t that ignorant are they? Why was he getting responses like yeah that doesn’t make sense. Maybe because it wasn’t accurate.

[skelly423]

On a set like 1952 Topps, the odds of pulling ANY card in a 9 or 10 are nearly 0. You're more likely to pull 5-7s with a few OCs and one scrap card with severe gum and/or wax residue. If the pack has ever been dropped or bumped in the wrong way, you're starting off at no better than 4s across the board.

If you're not opening a high series packs (which is unlikely), even the 9s won't return enough to cover the cost of the pack. You're basically hoping you pull a Mays or a Pafko in 9+ condition, and that simply not a gamble that's going to pay off

[glynparson]

The odds aren’t great but they are much better than finding a raw one. Also according to everything I have ever heard the 10 pafko came from a pack. Also the 55 bowman mantle got a 9. The chances aren’t zero. You saying something doesn’t make it true. This isn’t politics where opinion all of a sudden has become the same thing as fact.

[swarmee]

It's a game of odds. The only reason that the 1955 Bowman pack was opened was because Vintage Breaks got 10 people (or whatever) to split the cost of the pack in such a way that they made a tremendous profit.
Opening vintage packs (and modern packs) isn't done because the expected value of the cards in the pack is worth more than the pack itself. It's because of the HOPE that they get a lottery ticket inside.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by drcy

Unopened packs and boxes are things in and of themselves. Different from just the sum of the cards inside.

Yes…why is this hard to understand? Packs are cool, they represent restraint against the temptation to open and there are very few survivors.

[Fred]

Does anybody know what the going price for a pack of Piedmonts (or other brand) of cigarettes is going for? We'll assume there's a tax stamp on the box indicating a T206 could be inside the package.

Paying a spot in an unopened back break is basically gambling, right? I have no issue with it, but call it what it is. Odds are you will be getting a "high grade" card. As long as the centering isn't horrible and you don't draw the back of the pack which may leave some wax staining or gum marks, then you could come away with a nice looking card and then spend a few more dollars to get it slabbed.

[Mattymc727]

I’ve seen a few unopened Sweet Capital packs go for sale at auctions. Always wondered if the winner did actually open the pack and find a card, haven’t seen anything yet…

Originally Posted by Fred

Does anybody know what the going price for a pack of Piedmonts (or other brand) of cigarettes is going for? We'll assume there's a tax stamp on the box indicating a T206 could be inside the package.

Paying a spot in an unopened back break is basically gambling, right? I have no issue with it, but call it what it is. Odds are you will be getting a "high grade" card. As long as the centering isn't horrible and you don't draw the back of the pack which may leave some wax staining or gum marks, then you could come away with a nice looking card and then spend a few more dollars to get it slabbed.

[michael3322]

Here is a fascinating post exploring the question of whether you can pull a baseball card from a tobacco pack...

Could An Unopened Tobacco Pack Contain A T206 Card? | Oct 2023

(FYI: I don't know the author or website and only just found this article after reading the last few comments).